Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Andrew C]

US one week average. Slowing down more than the last time I looked at this.

 

[disneygeek90]

US one week average. Slowing down more than the last time I looked at this.
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Imagine how good it would look if you excluded Florida.

 

[Andrew C]

Imagine how good it would look if you excluded Florida.

Ehh. There is still California and texas. Lol

 

[correcaminos]

Albeit small , but randomized trial shows that a third moderna shot in transplant recipients provides adequate neutralizing antibodies ( two shots do not provide enough neutralizing antibodies) .

Study:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2111462

Separate letter:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2112866

Interestingly someone I know just had third shot. First shot produced zero antibodies. 2nd did but they went for third. (Part of a study)

 

[GoofGoof]

Once we hit a little above the 3 million mark, which feels only weeks away at this point, roughly 15% of all Floridians will have contracted covid. Insane.

Agreed, and this recent wave is almost exclusively in the unvaccinated population so the denominator is much smaller than the whole population. If we consider that 60% of adults in FL are vaccinated that leaves roughly 7M unvaccinated adults. If 80% of new cases are in unvaccinated adults (some were in children and some are breakthrough, but most are unvaccinated adults) and we had nearly 150,000 cases in the last 7 days that means nearly 2% of the unvaccinated population was infected just this past week alone. At that pace roughly 1% every 3-4 days .

The bad news for the virus (and the unvaccinated) is that at this pace nearly 10% of the unvaccinated would be infected in a month on top of however many were already infected Could mean 75-80% immune but way too many did it the hard way.

 

[GoofGoof]

Ehh. There is still California and texas. Lol

We should just look at Vermont and then pretend we all live there

 

[correcaminos]

As ridiculous and sad this is, your 13 year-old will be prepared for the idiocy of the world and will more than likely rise above the others due to these experiences and your parenting.
It would just be nice if it wasn't done this way.
There is enough difficulty in a regular life, whatever that is, with unavoidable emotional trauma due to stuff that just happens. It doesn't need to be added to by idiots living in a bubble of fiction and misinformation, who somehow have a need to involve others in a bait and switch tactic or trap

Thanks. We never try to be soft and pull punches. But this has been a horrible reality check. I will say I am proud with how mature he's been, but dang it sucks.

 

[Andrew C]

We should just look at Vermont and then pretend we all live there

No one else does. So why not.

 

[Heppenheimer]

We should just look at Vermont and then pretend we all live there

By my math, Florida's total COVID case count is four times greater than our entire population in Vermont.

 

[Jrb1979]

Looks like the Winnipeg Jets are the first team to require proof of vaccination to go to their games. The way things are going unvaccinated people will only allowed to go shopping. Quebec is requiring proof of vaccination for everything but retail.

 

[Lilofan]

Elsa missed Disney, so hopefully Fred misses Uni

Elsa missed Disney but MK streets were flooded and some little ones were swimming in the streets!

 

[LaughingGravy]

I agree wholeheartedly. This became a political sticking point in America in a way that many (not all) other countries mostly avoided. Not to say those grassroots didn't try, but it didn't stick as readily. This is not to say it is strictly politically divided, but that is the core root of how it was able to gain steam.

Historically crisis have been used to bring Americans together and it is only recently that the motivation became to divide. There has been success in picking a side instead of appealing to the middle, unlike we have ever seen before.

Yup. Pretty ridiculous as well as embarrassing.

 

[DisneyFan32]

Agreed, and this recent wave is almost exclusively in the unvaccinated population so the denominator is much smaller than the whole population. If we consider that 60% of adults in FL are vaccinated that leaves roughly 7M unvaccinated adults. If 80% of new cases are in unvaccinated adults (some were in children and some are breakthrough, but most are unvaccinated adults) and we had nearly 150,000 cases in the last 7 days that means nearly 2% of the unvaccinated population was infected just this past week alone. At that pace roughly 1% every 3-4 days .

The bad news for the virus (and the unvaccinated) is that at this pace nearly 10% of the unvaccinated would be infected in a month on top of however many were already infected Could mean 75-80% immune but way too many did it the hard way.

And then it's WAY WAY too long to get back to normal by end of the year or early 2022...

 

[jlhwdw]

At this point Florida should shut down for 30 days. Close all the theme parks, close the beaches, restrict highway and air traffic into and out of the state. Do a New Zealand style lockdown and pay Floridians to do it. Nobody goes outside of their homes, save for emergency personnel and very essential goods.

 

[LaughingGravy]

How are these two things at all related?

Protective Allergy Parent upset with a possibility of peanut contamination should not be upset with another preventative method that can easily affect many others if not in place.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

At this point Florida should shut down for 30 days. Close all the theme parks, close the beaches, restrict highway and air traffic into and out of the state. Do a New Zealand style lockdown and pay Floridians to do it. Nobody goes outside of their homes, save for emergency personnel and very essential goods.

So for alcohol and Publix fried chicken?

 

[GoofGoof]

At this point Florida should shut down for 30 days. Close all the theme parks, close the beaches, restrict highway and air traffic into and out of the state. Do a New Zealand style lockdown and pay Floridians to do it. Nobody goes outside of their homes, save for emergency personnel and very essential goods.

Is the boo bash considered very essential????

 

[Casper Gutman]

At this point Florida should shut down for 30 days. Close all the theme parks, close the beaches, restrict highway and air traffic into and out of the state. Do a New Zealand style lockdown and pay Floridians to do it. Nobody goes outside of their homes, save for emergency personnel and very essential goods.

How about just mandating the vaccine? How about we just do that?

 

[Epcotfan21]

Can we please stop with the Florida needs to lock down nonsense?! LOCK DOWNS DO NOT WORK. Even closing businesses for 30 days would be devastating for a vast
majority of small businesses.

Circumstances are a lot different than they were in the spring of 2020. We have a weapon against the virus. The vaccines are working! Florida will get through this wave just like they have in the past.

 

[jlhwdw]

Honestly if we did a worldwide 30 day lockdown we would all but eradicate it (and other viruses)