Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Malfie Cent]

I do live in TN.

Your statement is ridiculous.

Solicitation of minors?!

When you think you've seen it all......

Yes, that comes directly from the State Health Dept.
I guess you prefer to just take edited articles from your trusted news sources? Let me guess which ones those are........

 

[Malfie Cent]

LOL, well what do you know

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/23/tennessee-vaccine-outreach-children-gop/

 

[lazyboy97o]

Speak for yourself.
I don't live in Tennessee but as far as I can tell they are doing it because they don't want to be accused of solicitation of minors, because that is exactly what it is.
I'm sure parents of TN (you know the citizens who vote there) felt it wasn't the place of a government entity to be pushing vaccines on to their children. I've got no problem with that as long as parents are legally responsible for the health and care of their children under 18 then that is who should be being "pushed" into getting their kids vaccinated.
Good on them for standing up for what is right. Hopefully more states follow suit and stop using children as political pawns when it comes to vaccines.

Standing up for making sure kids don’t know they are vulnerable to diseases and are allowed to change that fact. That’s some serious nonsense.

 

[Virtual Toad]

Speak for yourself.
I don't live in Tennessee but as far as I can tell they are doing it because they don't want to be accused of solicitation of minors, because that is exactly what it is.
I'm sure parents of TN (you know the citizens who vote there) felt it wasn't the place of a government entity to be pushing vaccines on to their children. I've got no problem with that as long as parents are legally responsible for the health and care of their children under 18 then that is who should be being "pushed" into getting their kids vaccinated.
Good on them for standing up for what is right. Hopefully more states follow suit and stop using children as political pawns when it comes to vaccines.

Decades of effective, responsible and life saving public health policy be damned.

Good grief.

By your logic, public awareness campaigns aimed to curb teenage smoking and drunk driving also amount to solicitation of minors.

 

[kong1802]

Yes, that comes directly from the State Health Dept.
I guess you prefer to just take edited articles from your trusted news sources? Let me guess which ones those are........

You've already said you don't live here.....

I'll take my sources from here vs someone's sources not from here....

 

[kong1802]

Decades of effective, responsible and life saving public health policy be damned.

Good grief.

By your logic, public awareness campaigns aimed to curb teenage smoking and drunk driving also amount to solicitation of minors.

Or literally any advertisement on Disney Jr...........

If only logic could prevail, what a society we could have.

 

[Malfie Cent]

Standing up for making sure kids don’t know they are vulnerable to diseases and are allowed to change that fact. That’s some serious nonsense.

The only think that is nonsense is believing that the government can do a better job taking care of your children than you can.
I mean can you imaging going through life thinking you need some higher authority to make decisions for you and your family?

 

[Malfie Cent]

You've already said you don't live here.....

I'll take my sources from here vs someone's sources not from here....

LOL, OK.
You do know the internet works all over the country, even the world right.
For those who want facts it's pretty easy to find them. You do have to look beyond your biased news sources, may even have to delve into some actual research and go down a few rabbit holes.
But you just keep your "believing" whatever you want.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Speak for yourself.
I don't live in Tennessee but as far as I can tell they are doing it because they don't want to be accused of solicitation of minors, because that is exactly what it is.
I'm sure parents of TN (you know the citizens who vote there) felt it wasn't the place of a government entity to be pushing vaccines on to their children. I've got no problem with that as long as parents are legally responsible for the health and care of their children under 18 then that is who should be being "pushed" into getting their kids vaccinated.
Good on them for standing up for what is right. Hopefully more states follow suit and stop using children as political pawns when it comes to vaccines.

I was speaking for myself, that is the point of anyone’s post so have no idea what you are trying to say.
When the Tennessee chapter of the American Academy of Pediatrics comes out and says this is wrong that’s enough for me.
Straight from the Tennessean:

Redirect Notice

oh by the way.. they have reversed their decision after being bombarded by advocates and doctors and scientists and anyone not politically motivated. So your argument gets shut down over and over for what’s right.

Redirect Notice

 

[LittleBuford]

Yes, that comes directly from the State Health Dept.
I guess you prefer to just take edited articles from your trusted news sources? Let me guess which ones those are........

In case my understanding of the term “solicitation” was different from how it’s used in Tennessee law, I looked up the relevant section of the state code. Here it is:

2019 Tennessee Code :: Title 39 - Criminal Offenses :: Chapter 13 - Offenses Against Person :: Part 5 - Sexual Offenses :: § 39-13-528. Offense of solicitation of a minor.

Justia Free Databases of U.S. Laws, Codes & Statutes

law.justia.com

Could you explain how promoting vaccines to children constitutes solicitation according to this definition?

 

[Disney Analyst]

The only think that is nonsense is believing that the government can do a better job taking care of your children than you can.
I mean can you imaging going through life thinking you need some higher authority to make decisions for you and your family?

We should probably also not interfere then when children are abused. All parents know what’s best for their kids.

 

[lazyboy97o]

The only think that is nonsense is believing that the government can do a better job taking care of your children than you can.
I mean can you imaging going through life thinking you need some higher authority to make decisions for you and your family?

The government also thinks it is wrong to not feed your children. The government also thinks it’s wrong to beat your children as punishment or even just for fun. Should we stand up against that?

 

[kong1802]

We should probably also not interfere then when children are abused. All parents know what’s best for their kids.

The government also thinks it is wrong to not feed your children. The government also thinks it’s wrong to beat your children as punishment or even just for fun. Should we stand up against that?

See, logic is not only necessary, but when you use it, things become pretty obvious.

Great examples.

 

[LittleBuford]

Do you get better wifi with that hat on? I wouldn't know, I never tried it.

Can you clarify your understanding of the term “solicitation” in this context? I’m genuinely trying to understand your position here.

 

[Touchdown]

There is no single source. This is an impact from outside as well as inside sources. Finger pointing is not helpful.

Screw that I say we’ve let those fish get away with far too much, I say we nuke Atlantis out of existence!

 

[Malfie Cent]

So many strawman arguments. Not going to waste my time with them, but I'm sure you all know that which is why you post them.
How else are you going to avoid a real discussion where you might have to concede that you may be wrong on some things. Or that others who feel differently may actually have valid, logical reasons. I know it's just easier to paint people as conspiracy theorists, or fringe whatever than admit you may be wrong or god forbid understand where someone is coming from.
Continue being sheep

On that, have a great day everyone, I've got to get ready for my WDW trip!!!!

 

[kong1802]

Can you clarify your understanding of the term “solicitation” in this context? I’m genuinely trying to understand your position here.

I'm shocked you didn't get an answer....

And by shocked I mean not shocked in the slightest. lol

 

[Tony the Tigger]

The deflection to the border is starting to get old.

Especially since nobody was saying that until they were told to say that by their favorite talking heads.

Do you not understand that the Government is flying and busing illegals all over the country?

Do you not understand that is completely irrelevant to this discussion about coronavirus?

 

[lazyboy97o]

So many strawman arguments. Not going to waste my time with them, but I'm sure you all know that which is why you post them.
How else are you going to avoid a real discussion where you might have to concede that you may be wrong on some things. Or that others who feel differently may actually have valid, logical reasons. I know it's just easier to paint people as conspiracy theorists, or fringe whatever than admit you may be wrong or god forbid understand where someone is coming from.
Continue being sheep

On that, have a great day everyone, I've got to get ready for my WDW trip!!!!

I will gladly say I do not understand why any parent would want their child to risk getting a disease that is easily preventable. The idea that we are worse off without polio is nonsense.

 

[Casper Gutman]

So many strawman arguments. Not going to waste my time with them, but I'm sure you all know that which is why you post them.
How else are you going to avoid a real discussion where you might have to concede that you may be wrong on some things. Or that others who feel differently may actually have valid, logical reasons. I know it's just easier to paint people as conspiracy theorists, or fringe whatever than admit you may be wrong or god forbid understand where someone is coming from.
Continue being sheep

On that, have a great day everyone, I've got to get ready for my WDW trip!!!!

Out of curiosity, what would you say are your top sources of information?