News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

[peter11435]

I do think we’ll get the TSR sooner than later.

I think it would already be well under construction if not for Covid

 

[No Name]

Good question. And will it have a ramp?

In all seriousness it did get changed to a ramp.

 

[nickys]

In all seriousness it did get changed to a ramp.

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I couldn’t decide between and .

Thanks though, I’d forgotten, or never noticed, the steps in that first concept picture.

 

[J4546]

im curious to see what it will all look like with the ramps....cant wait for concrete pathwork to get started!

 

[RSoxNo1]

It sounds bad because it is. And because for over a billion dollars you get an attraction ride count of around 3500 guests an hour. In total.

That’s less than just the Peoplemover.

I assume Falcon was regularly hitting 1700-1800, but we know Rise of the Resistance wasn't.

I'm also guessing that the Peoplemover hasn't had many 3500 GPH days in the last 5 years either.

With all that said, Galaxy's Edge needed the Kinetic third attraction. I think Pandora gets away with not having this due to the water in the land, but Pandora was also underbuilt from a capacity standpoint as well. As soon as Disney took a few steps forward addressing capacity issues (Soarin', Toy Story, Dumbo, New Fantaslyand), they followed it up with capacity errors (Pandora, Galaxy's Edge, Slinky Dog, Frozen Ever After).

 

[RSoxNo1]

There will never be a 5th gate. They may build another castle park somewhere else and expand Disneyland but they’d be insane to build a 5th gate in the Florida swamps when we’re already at the point where attendance falls each year in the summer - peak vacation season most places! - because it’s too hot and getting hotter.

I wouldn't say never, but I'd be very surprised at a 5th gate within the next 20 years.

 

[doctornick]

I assume Falcon was regularly hitting 1700-1800, but we know Rise of the Resistance wasn't.

I'm also guessing that the Peoplemover hasn't had many 3500 GPH days in the last 5 years either.

With all that said, Galaxy's Edge needed the Kinetic third attraction. I think Pandora gets away with not having this due to the water in the land, but Pandora was also underbuilt from a capacity standpoint as well. As soon as Disney took a few steps forward addressing capacity issues (Soarin', Toy Story, Dumbo, New Fantaslyand), they followed it up with capacity errors (Pandora, Galaxy's Edge, Slinky Dog, Frozen Ever After).

Yes, I don’t understand modern Disney’s reluctance to put more than 2 rides in new lands. Putting in a smaller C ticket to balance out the bigger rides in these new builds would be very helpful and could be done as a small part of the total cost.

 

[CastAStone]

I'm also guessing that the Peoplemover hasn't had many 3500 GPH days in the last 5 years either.

18.75 second dispatches, right? So 3500 would require an average of 18.2 guests per 5 car train. I would hazard that they’ve never hit that for an hour in the history of the park, but I could be mistaken.

 

[marni1971]

I assume Falcon was regularly hitting 1700-1800, but we know Rise of the Resistance wasn't.

I'm also guessing that the Peoplemover hasn't had many 3500 GPH days in the last 5 years either.

With all that said, Galaxy's Edge needed the Kinetic third attraction. I think Pandora gets away with not having this due to the water in the land, but Pandora was also underbuilt from a capacity standpoint as well. As soon as Disney took a few steps forward addressing capacity issues (Soarin', Toy Story, Dumbo, New Fantaslyand), they followed it up with capacity errors (Pandora, Galaxy's Edge, Slinky Dog, Frozen Ever After).

Galaxies edge needed to be its own park but that won’t happen either. I always said that IP and Marvel were Disney’s last justifiable chance for another gate in Anaheim.

 

[Movielover]

Yes, I don’t understand modern Disney’s reluctance to put more than 2 rides in new lands. Putting in a smaller C ticket to balance out the bigger rides in these new builds would be very helpful and could be done as a small part of the total cost.

Alien Saucer's is the C ticket to balance out Slinky and Mania.

As soon as Disney took a few steps forward addressing capacity issues (Soarin', Toy Story, Dumbo, New Fantaslyand), they followed it up with capacity errors (Pandora, Galaxy's Edge, Slinky Dog

Does Slinky have capacity issues? Legitimately asking because I thought for a coaster it had a pretty good hourly capacity.

 

[412]

I assume Falcon was regularly hitting 1700-1800, but we know Rise of the Resistance wasn't.

I'm also guessing that the Peoplemover hasn't had many 3500 GPH days in the last 5 years either.

With all that said, Galaxy's Edge needed the Kinetic third attraction. I think Pandora gets away with not having this due to the water in the land, but Pandora was also underbuilt from a capacity standpoint as well. As soon as Disney took a few steps forward addressing capacity issues (Soarin', Toy Story, Dumbo, New Fantaslyand), they followed it up with capacity errors (Pandora, Galaxy's Edge, Slinky Dog, Frozen Ever After).

They should have just built a People Mover in Galaxy’s Edge. Theme it as some mining transport, have it travel through the land and into a sparkling kyber crystal mine. It would have added enormous capacity and kinetic energy at a relatively low cost.

 

[UNCgolf]

Alien Saucer's is the C ticket to balance out Slinky and Mania.

Mania was already there, though. It doesn't really count as part of the new land. They could have easily built a third attraction to go along with SDD and Swirling Saucers if they hadn't made such a mess of the land's design.

 

[bcoachable]

I realize This is not the place for 5th gate talks- but I need to chime in by adding that a third domestic vacation destination would leverage more ability to make money with hotels and table service plus park merch, than a fifth gate in Orlando (IMO of course)

 

[The Aracuan Bird]

I realize This is not the place for 5th gate talks- but I need to chime in by adding that a third domestic vacation destination would leverage more ability to make money with hotels and table service plus park merch, than a fifth gate in Orlando (IMO of course)

Where would it go?

 

[bcoachable]

Where would it go?

Let’s ask Bob Foster-

 

[fgmnt]

It sounds bad because it is. And because for over a billion dollars you get an attraction ride count of around 3500 guests an hour. In total.

That’s less than just the Peoplemover.

Stuff like this combined with cancelling the only remotely intelligent capital project in MK in 20 years (Main Street Theater) but maintaining probably the most reckless capital project (Tron) in is pretty much all of the proof you need that no one in Burbank has any idea what a quality capital expenditure in Central Florida looks like. The total dereliction of EPCOT Center obviously makes the case on its own, but it's really baffling to the point where I try not to think about it too much at all.

 

[owlsandcoffee]

They should have just built a People Mover in Galaxy’s Edge. Theme it as some mining transport, have it travel through the land and into a sparkling kyber crystal mine. It would have added enormous capacity and kinetic energy at a relatively low cost.

They were going to! You would've been riding a Bantha, actually (think a goofy wooly mammoth thing). They put a lot of work into making the movement believable and everything. It got scuttled like 60% of the content for GE.

 

[J4546]

it got scuttled because it had a terrible ride capacity is what i heard

 

[owlsandcoffee]

it got scuttled because it had a terrible ride capacity is what i heard

Wouldn't shock me. My thought is...is bad capacity worse than no capacity? The answer could very well be yes, I'm not in the biz.

 

[Incomudro]

Wouldn't shock me. My thought is...is bad capacity worse than no capacity? The answer could very well be yes, I'm not in the biz.

And is it worse than building something that very low capacity or not, would have given the land some of the life and motion it was meant to have and should have?