Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Tony Perkis]

Now get Fauci and Wallensky and Baccera and Biden to say it.

Im all for a stated end goal. I question why our leaders refuse to state one.

They have.

Fauci: 70% to 85% of Americans need to be fully vaccinated for a return to normal

<p>About 70% to 85% of the US population should be fully vaccinated against Covid-19 before the country can begin to return to a sense of normalcy, Dr. Anthony

nbcpalmsprings.com

You just don’t like Fauci’s response when he schooled Jim Jordan.

 

[Bullseye1967]

They have.

Fauci: 70% to 85% of Americans need to be fully vaccinated for a return to normal

<p>About 70% to 85% of the US population should be fully vaccinated against Covid-19 before the country can begin to return to a sense of normalcy, Dr. Anthony

nbcpalmsprings.com

You just don’t like Fauci’s response when he schooled Jim Jordan.

85% is a number that will never be seen.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Just own it, you’re clearly fine with hundreds of thousands in the US dying every year.

This entire post is a lie to make yourself feel better. Own it, come to terms, stop kidding yourself. You’re clearly already at “some point” as the impacts exist today.

look I’m vaccinated. I have done my part. Followed all the rules. Masked up and even known people who have gotten sick and even died from this. It’s bad. I get it. No one wants it or to get sick in any way. I just feel the media fear factor and miscommunications from the beginning about this and understanding this has been very poor. Throw in making most of this a political thing moreso than a public health thing and now here we are.

no one has been able to explain why places like
Florida and Texas being wide open haven’t had people dying at exponentially higher rates than other major lockdown strict states like California who actually has the most cases at the moment. So being able to trust what they tell us is “the science” and not always adding up or it changing often leaves questions and lack of trust

We went from no need for masks to masks and 15 days to slow the spread to a year to double masking to now oh wait masks are basically pointless outdoors now because the risk is so low especially if you are vaccinated, but let’s keep wearing that mask around people anyways. I get erroring on the side of caution to try to keep people safe and I have done that as have many others which is great....but again...how long will this control of us not making our own decisions continue because the virus will always be around in some way and everyone will never be vaccinated and there will always be some risk. At some point mental health will become worse than covid

 

[GhostHost1000]

So... is the news not supposed to report on any kind of vaccine issues? Because then the knock would be that the media is so desperate for everyone to get vaccinated that they are now ignoring issues with the vaccines.

No they absolutely should...but have many times do we watch or see the “news” and it’s positive encouraging things? We need that to get those on the fence about getting a shot to feel better about getting one

 

[Yodascousin]

Study from the uk shows that just one dose of the vaccine cuts household transmission by up to 50% would expect 2 doses to be even more!! Arms out!

 

[Patcheslee]

What were are seeing locally is appointment availability even for today, but those are during work and school hours. To get an appointment for after 3:30pm for Pfizer have to go out to May 13th. Moderna same day available after work/school, J&J not even available. At this point I highly doubt even when Pfizer gets approved for 12-15 they will open it up quickly.

 

[Figgy1]

What were are seeing locally is appointment availability even for today, but those are during work and school hours. To get an appointment for after 3:30pm for Pfizer have to go out to May 13th. Moderna same day available after work/school, J&J not even available. At this point I highly doubt even when Pfizer gets approved for 12-15 they will open it up quickly.

I didn't even see that yesterday.

 

[erasure fan1]

yet you still expect him to know an exact percentage with 100% certainty is beyond ridiculous.

No one expects anyone to know everything about this virus 100%. But Fauci has been all over the place on this one. At this point I'm not sure how anyone trusts what this guy says. In my opinion he doesn't appear to be following the science as they say.

 

[pixie225]

Pfizer working on oral (pill) vaccine. Interesting. https://www.news.com.au/world/coron...t/news-story/1723b9211635b3818d8ec38325976496

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Ok if you’re comfortable being LIED TO and have your life decisions influenced by either TV personalities posing as scientists and incompetent politicians then I can’t help you.

Stop with the hyperbole.

 

[Kevin_W]

Pfizer working on oral (pill) vaccine. Interesting. https://www.news.com.au/world/coron...t/news-story/1723b9211635b3818d8ec38325976496

Interesting; let's hope it works. (Just a note - it's not a vaccine referenced in this article, but a treatment for those that already have the disease.)

 

[monothingie]

Stop with the hyperbole.

So being lied to and mislead is hyperbole….

 

[SorcererMC]

There's nothing objectionable about what Fauci said. He had an idea of what herd immunity might be around 70%, then new studies and information were presented that alter that estimate lower, and so the vaccination goal is going to be adjusted accordingly of what an ID specialist would like to see.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

If you say so.

Here you go. One of their own saying that they spread falsehoods. There's another FOX reporter also saying that she was forced (forced is her word) to write a story that was untrue.

Fox News host slams network for coverage of false stories about Biden's red meat plans and Harris's book

Juan Williams preached caution when reporting on the John Kerry allegations given the amount of coverage Fox News gave to recent false stories about Biden and Harris.

www.yahoo.com

 

[monothingie]

There's nothing objectionable about what Fauci said. He had an idea of what herd immunity might be around 70%, then new studies and information were presented that alter that estimate lower, and so the vaccination goal is going to be adjusted accordingly of what an ID specialist would like to see.

He based his scientific assessment on opinion polls. Let that sink in.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

He based his scientific assessment on opinion polls. Let that sink in.

Because human behavior is part of the equation. As was stated a few times yesterday, and by more than one person. Let that sink in.

 

[SorcererMC]

He based his scientific assessment on opinion polls. Let that sink in.

Yes, scientific assessments of outbreak dynamics must include the dimension of human behavior and willingness to comply with outbreak intervention measures, including vaccines. He would be reckless and negligent NOT to take that into account.

 

[monothingie]

Because human behavior is part of the equation. As was stated a few times yesterday, and by more than one person. Let that sink in.

Ok we’re following the science here. It is a binary choice (yes or no) Does xx% represent herd immunity? Doesn’t work on opinion or feelings.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Ok we’re following the science here. It is a binary choice (yes or no) Does xx% represent herd immunity? Doesn’t work on opinion or feelings.

No. It isn't. He needs to set the goal as high as possible without setting it so high that people throw their hands up and give up.

This isn't that difficult to understand.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

It looks like it’s time to once again post credentials of what one of the most amazing contributors to our health in all of our lifetimes has done.
Science doesn’t care what you believe. So when you hear something from a top scientist and it doesn’t go along with your opinions and then start calling the guy a buffoon or worse, the ignore button kicks in and it makes this thread a lot quicker to read.
Science is hard work and it doesn’t come gift wrapped in a box for everyone to see what it is. We are still figuring this latest thing out and will be for years. We rely on science because it’s better then just making things up. So if the answers just don’t make sense.. and one month there’s a answer but the next month it changes.. guess what? That’s science working.

Anthony S. Fauci, M.D.

Background information and profile of NIAID Director, Anthony S. Fauci, M.D.

www.niaid.nih.gov

A Long Crusade Against Some of the World’s Most Virulent Diseases for Anthony S. Fauci, MD

ascopost.com

2 links.. find time to read and realize the guy has more talent in his pinkie then we all do put together Z