Spare me your righteousness. Just answer the question, when does it stop? Specifics would be appreciated. Quite frankly the fact that no can or wants to answer this question should concern everyone.
Do you really blame them for not wanting to answer a question when that answer depends on multiple variables, not the least of which is human behavior? Considering how people react when someone is wrong about something that doesn't involve a global health crisis, I'm not surprised we haven't been given an answer yet.
BS excuse and you know it. Don’t dodge and avoid because then you sound like a politician.
The problem is the answer is subjective and someone in authority has to just say something solid. If it were me - 70% of adults or 60% of population combined with less than 5 per 100k new infections per day nationwide average over 2-3 weeks
I'm not dodging squat. America has proven to be full of superstitious, petulant, spoiled brats.
The answer is always going to be subjective. It’s the same reason why 50 states have 50 different criteria for restrictions. It’s the reason why 50 different states say they’re each following the science.
I agree. It’s time to hear something more solid from our leaders than what we’ve been hearing. Honestly, I’m getting a bit disappointed with the lack of communication.
Your last sentence just blew your credibility. You're the second person today to do that.
Ok great, I don’t really care what you think. But since you can’t even state an end goal, you’re not engaging in an honest discussion and just spouting nonsense.
There you go! Now can you imagine if our illustrious heads of HHS and CDC came out and said that if each state achieved those goals they could remove all restrictions? You think that would be a motivator for those on the fence?
That moment when you forget that state boundaries aren’t real boundaries with physical limitations.
I also think they're trying to avoid triggering responses from those who would go out of their way to sabotage any efforts from the current administration, regardless of the cost to those of us who live among the masses.
I'm pretty sure today I posted about my baselines being cases akin to last spring, and the winter surge akin to influenza levels but the reality of the situation is that there is no human being on this earth, let alone a Disney message board that can *accurately* describe the levels needed to bring SAR-CoV-2 to a manageable state until AFTER we have reached them. None. All we have are guesses. Because this is a brand new disease. You are the one that is not engaging in an honest discussion and just spouting nonsense. You might as well be asking where the next tornado will hit, because after all, there are people that spend their lives studying tornadoes so they should know. How do you think this country will react if given a number too low and then we have to do more? How do you think this country will react if the levels enumerated are accurate but regular folks believe they are too high to achieve?
Also I can’t imagine what would happen if they are wrong. What if there is another surge after we remove restrictions. Will people be fine with it? Or do we get more outrage? It is a lose lose. I do, however, wish we had at least a vague idea of what we are shooting for here. We aren’t going to get 75-80% vaccinated so we need some realistic goals
Well unfortunately this little problem of the sovereignty of states comes into play. So while I appreciate your poor attempt at snark rather than actually discussing the issue, there is no way to avoid the fact that our system of government requires us to divide whatever regs/guidelines via each of the 50 states.
Your first few lines are part of my previous point. A definitive answer could be setting themselves up for trouble through no fault of their own.
I guess you haven't been paying attention. Plenty of people have suggested numbers when restrictions might be lifted. I mean, they weren't "Right this instant," so I can see why an anti-masker would gloss right over them...
We can and have been able to easily identify a level at which the virus is spreading and out of control, yet it is IMPOSSIBLE to identify a level at which is manageable and stable?
