Splash Mountain re-theme announced

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

You did not include enough detail for me to understand what you’re trying to say. I asked for clarification. You don’t have to provide it, but please don’t insinuate that I’m playing obtuse to make a point.

You said, “the media is not to be trusted.” I’m trying to figure out who you’re talking about when you say, “the media.” You’ve clarified now by saying, “the mainstream media,” but I’m still not sure who that is. Is ABC the “mainstream media” when all their sitcoms do the obligatory ”very special field trip to Disneyland” episodes? I haven’t seen any of those depict Splash Mountain in a negative light.

Or maybe you mean “news media“ (which I asked about previously). But if that’s the case, you might expect that a journalist’s job isn’t to post positive PR for a company like Disney, but to post the things Disney might have interest in NOT promoting. When something that’s of public interest happens, that’s news.

Disney’s announcement was news. But a balanced news report would explore every angle of the story, like this one from “mainstream media” CNN, which includes direct quotes from Disney’s one press release but also notes the coincidence of the announcement with BLM protests and the change.org petition.

And because the “mainstream media” posts directly to social media platforms, I’m not sure how you separate them in your understanding of how influence happens or news spreads. I don’t understand how the sentence “it is the mainstream media who leads the way and it is social media that does it’s bidding” makes any sense at all. Is WDWMagic doing my bidding by allowing me to post here?

You’re free to have your opinion. I’m trying to understand it for the sake of the discussion. You think Twitter is the most dominant social media outlet. I’m trying to understand what you mean by that because you’re clearly not measuring according to user numbers. Is your opinion on this informed by any evidence, or is it just how things seem to you?

BTW, I did not drag you into anything. You do not have to respond to every post you’re tagged in. If you’re not having fun interacting with me, you probably shouldn’t!

Just wait until you see what Disney does to the Rocketeer next. Gonna remove it for being problematic for it is not inclusive in the way it shows German people as just evil villains who want to take over the world. Disgusting. Non inclusive! It's days on Disney Plus are numbered.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Disney is changing Splash for stupid Woke reasons and it is no coincidence that the announcement came during the BLM riots over the Summer. You're in denial if you think that was a coincidence, and you don't need to be a Q'anon beleiver to think that. They just fired an actress from the Mandalorian for transparently political reasons, Disney is not a tolerant and inclusive company. They bow to the Woke mob and they frankly don't care if it loses them profits.

BLM protests have been happening for years. Wouldn’t Disney have made an announcement years ago?

Carano was fired for refusing to listen to her employer and continuing to tweet problematic things. What does she have to do with this?

 

[UNCgolf]

Disney is changing Splash for stupid Woke reasons and it is no coincidence that the announcement came during the BLM riots over the Summer. You're in denial if you think that was a coincidence, and you don't need to be a Q'anon beleiver to think that. They just fired an actress from the Mandalorian for transparently political reasons, Disney is not a tolerant and inclusive company. They bow to the Woke mob and they frankly don't care if it loses them profits.

Of course they do. If they thought these moves were going to cause a big loss in profits they wouldn't make them. It's far more likely that they believe these moves will actually increase profits long-term.

Might be time to realize the majority of people either actually disagree with you or just don't have strong enough opinions to care either way.

 

[Model3 McQueen]

So is this project cancelled yet or what? Or is Disney too busy spending money on this and cutting corners elsewhere as usual?

 

[champdisney]

Carano was fired for refusing to listen to her employer and continuing to tweet problematic things. What does she have to do with this?

Same can be said about Pascal and other Lucasfilm employees and yet there they are still under Disney’s payroll. Seems apparent that as long as their political stance fits their narrative they’re given a free pass to say whatever they please.

I don’t know about you but that sounds an awful lot like a dictatorship to me.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Same can be said about Pascal and other Lucasfilm employees and yet there they are still under Disney’s payroll. Seems apparent that as long as their political stance fits their narrative they’re given a free pass to say whatever they please.

I don’t know about you but that sounds an awful lot like a dictatorship to me.

What company isn’t like that? Companies have narratives and policies. It’s more like companies and places have rules and policies in place and employees are expected to abide by them. That’s not a dictatorship lol.

Carano was given multiple warnings. She made her choice. Disney could have fired her last year when she first started tweeting things. She blew it. Did Pascal continue to post problematic things on his social media platforms? I don’t believe he did.

 

[UNCgolf]

Same can be said about Pascal and other Lucasfilm employees and yet there they are still under Disney’s payroll. Seems apparent that as long as their political stance fits their narrative they’re given a free pass to say whatever they please.

I don’t know about you but that sounds an awful lot like a dictatorship to me.

The vast majority of corporations are dictatorships (or maybe oligarchies) if you want to put them into governmental terms (that's not really the best way to describe them, but for simplicity's sake). That shouldn't be surprising. Unless there are union protections or some other type of regulatory oversight, they can generally fire anyone they want for any reason.

Are you suggesting they should be forced to keep people employed no matter what?

 

[champdisney]

What company isn’t like that? Companies have narratives and policies. It’s more like companies and places have rules and policies in place and employees are expected to abide by them. That’s not a dictatorship lol.

Carano was given multiple warnings. She made her choice. Disney could have fired her last year when she first started tweeting things. She blew it. Did Pascal continue to post problematic things on his social media platforms? I don’t believe he did.

Again, Pascal and multiple employees have done exactly this if not worse.

Where was their reprimand? Why weren’t they fired after they continued to display such distasteful conduct online?

The vast majority of corporations are dictatorships (or maybe oligarchies) if you want to put them into governmental terms (that's not really the best way to describe them, but for simplicity's sake). That shouldn't be surprising. Unless there are union protections or some other type of regulatory oversight, they can generally fire anyone they want for any reason.

Are you suggesting they should be forced to keep people employed no matter what?

No, I am not suggesting that at all. However, when you have other employees within that same company demonstrating that same kind of behavior if not worse then they too should be held accountable. Yet, they get away with it scot-free?

Carano is a conservative woman and because she is not afraid to voice her opinions, she gets axed? All while her co-workers who oppose her politically can say whatever they want at any given moment? Have you seen the looney B.S. Pascal has posted on his Twitter account? Have you read the tweets posted by the countless Lucasfilm employees mocking their fanbase?

Lucasfilm was wrong with firing Gina Carano.

As Anakin Skywalker once said...

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

Again, Pascal and multiple employees have done exactly this if not worse.

Where was their reprimand? Why weren’t they fired after they continued to display such distasteful conduct online?



No, I am not suggesting that at all. However, when you have other employees within that same comndemonstrating that same kind of behavior if not worse then they too should be held accountable. Yet, they get away with it scot-free?

Carano is a conservative woman and because she is not afraid to voice her opinions, she gets axed? All while her co-workers who oppose her politically can say whatever they want at any given moment? Have you seen the looney B.S. Pascal has posted on his Twitter account? Have you read the tweets posted by the countless Lucasfilm employees mock their fanbase?

Lucasfilm was wrong with firing Gina Carano.

As Anakin Skywalker once said...

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Be careful man, some sensitive people around here may tell you to 'grow up" for sharing your opinion.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Again, Pascal and multiple employees have done exactly this if not worse.

Where was their reprimand? Why weren’t they fired after they continued to display such distasteful conduct online?



No, I am not suggesting that at all. However, when you have other employees within that same company demonstrating that same kind of behavior if not worse then they too should be held accountable. Yet, they get away with it scot-free?

Carano is a conservative woman and because she is not afraid to voice her opinions, she gets axed? All while her co-workers who oppose her politically can say whatever they want at any given moment? Have you seen the looney B.S. Pascal has posted on his Twitter account? Have you read the tweets posted by the countless Lucasfilm employees mocking their fanbase?

Lucasfilm was wrong with firing Gina Carano.

As Anakin Skywalker once said...

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They weren’t fired because they stopped, which is what I insinuated know my initial reply. Also, who is “they?” Besides Pascal, who are you referring to?

Disney gave Carano chances and she screwed then up. She now will be working on a project with conservative pals and will have a platform where she can make fun of the trans community talk about the conspiracy of last year’s “false” election results, and compare herself and other crying conservatives to the persecution of Jews during the Holocaust in comfort and in peace. She’ll be okay.

 

[_caleb]

When referencing the mainstream media, I’m talking about the entire industry that is responsible for giving the public daily information. Pinpointing them to a tee is absolutely time consuming for me at the moment, however I still managed to write a lengthy response that some came to understand. I think it’s you playing devils advocate here which by all means do so. I suspected members of the forum would come along to dissect my response but here’s the thing. You along with everyone else knows exactly what the mainstream is and how a huge chunk of the public finds it untrustworthy.

If you or anyone find them to be an ally, that is okay. I just don’t want to have to explain in elaborate detail who is responsible for what out of the bunch. Quite frankly they are all sleeping on the same bed together when it comes to selective information.

Regarding ABC, that’s an obvious “of course not” because you and I both know that that organization is owned by Disney. Not sure why you refered to them in this case as everyone knows that no company would ever talk down on their own products.

From what I’ve seen in the past leading to this point, news outlets such as CNN, Fox, MSNBC, CBS and their online counterparts have all displayed footage of Splash Mountain every time they report something Disney related. Either good or bad... but mostly bad. Though one can argue that using Splash Mountain for a couple seconds within a news segment makes sense being that the attraction is one of Disney’s marquee attractions, not to mention that it’s easy to grab quick footage of it outdoors.

They have routinely used Splash Mountain as easy footage to insert into their reports while talking about the parks itself whether it be an incident that took place or the dreaded ticket price spikes. To clarify: the reports were not about Splash Mountain. Just pointing out the fact that they used footage on an attraction they deem offensive today.

This is why I don’t trust the media. It’s these little switcheroos in narratives that the mainstream media fully believes that the average person will not remember. Yet, I remember and I’m free to call them out on their bias reporting.


Most of the public receives their information through the mainstream media and most of the things they report are entirely shrouded in darkness and so far bent from the truth that it triggers people. And in turn these people go on social media and spread more of that negativity like a virus.

What?

What evidence do you need? I’m talking in regards of Twitter’s algorithm. There is always an explosive amount of content being added and discussion being held on that service at all times of the day. By chance, are you on Twitter?

I responded as a gentlemen because I believe we can go somewhere and at least come to terms of an understanding. Just not into the dissection of every little thing you disagree with.

That’s the second time you’ve implied that I was lying when I said I didn’t understand what you meant. I told you that I don’t appreciate that.

I’ve tried to understand what you’ve been trying to say about Disney changing Splash Mountain. But when I ask questions, you think I’m being pedantic. Here’s what I’ve taken away from my interaction with you about this:

• You use the term “mainstream media” the same way political conservatives do. You think everyone uses this term the way people like you do. I don’t.
• You think the “mainstream media” don’t paint Disney in a fair light. You say they always show video of people enjoying themselves on Splash Mountain when they report mostly negative things about Disney. I haven’t seen this.
• You say the “mainstream media” thinks Splash Mountain is racist, but still shows images of the ride, which you find disingenuous. I, on the other hand, don’t think the “mainstream media” thinks anything at all about Splash Mountain, and I don’t understand how showing footage of the ride would cause someone to distrust them.
• You think Twitter has outsized influence because their algorithm does the bidding of the “mainstream media” and people use it to be mean and spread lies.

I can be dense sometimes, but I’m not a complete idiot. Please tell me where I may have misunderstood.

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

They weren’t fired because they stopped, which is what I insinuated know my initial reply. Also, who is “they?” Besides Pascal, who are you referring to?

Disney gave Carano chances and she screwed then up. She now will be working on a project with conservative pals and will have a platform where she can make fun of the trans community talk about the conspiracy of last year’s “false” election results, and compare herself and other crying conservatives to the persecution of Jews during the Holocaust in comfort and in peace. She’ll be okay.

She never made fun of the trans community.

 

[champdisney]

Be careful man, some sensitive people around here may tell you to 'grow up" for sharing your opinion.

Who knows. Although, I do expect to be speaking to level headed adults who are able to have a discussion based on logical reasoning instead of being quick to dismiss certain things that also happened.

 

[Californian Elitist]

She never made fun of the trans community.

She did.

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

Who knows. Although, I do expect to be speaking to level headed adults who are able to have a discussion based on logical reasoning instead of being quick to dismiss certain things that really happened.

To them, you are either with them or against them. Horrible mind set to have.

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

She did.

Actually no she did not. This has been discussed ad nauseum everywhere but let me explain why she didn't. people were bullying her to put her "pronouns" on her twitter profile (like that is important for some reason. who gives a ratts butt) and she told them she did not want to. They kept on hounding her after they got their answer. so since she worked on star wars, in a move of wit she posted "beep boop bops" in that section as a tonque in cheek response to the bullies and for some reason took it as she hates all trans people and was mocking them. which she did not do. nor does she hate them. that is what happend.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Actually no she did not. This has been discussed ad nauseum everywhere but let me explain why she didn't. people were bullying her to put her "pronouns" on her twitter profile (like that is important for some reason. who gives a ratts butt) and she told them she did not want to. They kept on hounding her after they got their answer. so since she worked on star wars, in a move of wit she posted "beep boop bops" in that section as a tonque in cheek response to the bullies and people for some reason took it as she hates all trans people and was mocking them. which she did not do. nor does she hate them. that is what happend.

She mocked the use of pronouns, and that could be taken as anti-trans. Pascal had to educate her on why people use pronouns.

That was one of her strikes, whether you agree with her stance or not.

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

She mocked the use of pronouns, and that could be taken as anti-trans. Pascal had to educate her on why people use pronouns.

That was one of her strikes, whether you agree with her stance or not.

again she did not. she stood up to bullies online who were constantly bothering her after she gave them a appropriate response. I am someone who would make fun of the use of pronouns because I think it's stupid. but she responded with wit and class and it upset people. I don't care what corrupt and inconsistent and biased twitter considers a strike.

 

[Californian Elitist]

again she did not. she stood up to bullies online who were constantly bothering her after she gave them a appropriate response.

She did and now it's caught up to her, as well as her other tweets. Disney had the right to fire her and they did.

Oh well.

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

again she did not. she stood up to bullies online who were constantly bothering her after she gave them a appropriate response.

She did and now it's caught up to her, as well as her other tweets. Disney had the right to fire her and they did.

Oh well.

You are very wrong on this issue. she did no such thing. and as a matter of fact , she was not fired. her contractual obligations were long since done. all it was is Disney saying they are no longer going to work with her or bring her back now that the contract is over. she was not fired or let go. they are just not bringing her back.