The point is that these people are trying to grasp at straws, because they can’t grasp the fact that Disney would do something they don’t like, despite being a business. thus, they are looking to doxx and attack any people they see as responible for this retheme. This is not only dangerous, but illegal.
While I agree that Disney is ultimately the one responsible for most of their decisions, it isn’t entirely unreasonable for someone assume social media had some sort of influence here. For one, what happened to Splash Mountain was not an isolated incident. Even though the average Twitter user may not accurately represent the core audience of most companies, this isn’t the first or last time Disney and other corporations have announced and/or made major decisions in seemingly direct response to said average user’s preceding outrage against their products or employees.
While PatF did in fact outperform some of Disney’s other animated films that came out over the course of the decade leading up to it, that’s not saying much given how low of a bar that was to cross. Let’s not rewrite history here. Even though PatF may not have been outright bomb and is generally considered to be the start of the revival era at WDAS, it‘s an objective fact that it was considered by Disney to have underperformed upon its initial release. Beyond failing to kickstart a hand-drawn Renaissance as John Lasseter intended, its box office results were also directly responsible for Disney changing the titles and marketing of their then upcoming slate of princess films to be more gender neutral.
Again, I'm not sure where you're getting this information. There was a solid stretch pre-COVID where the only promoted tweets I saw from any company were ad rolls for Galaxy's Edge in front of Ellen clips. The Ellen clips would change from week to week, but the SWGE ads ran constantly.
Very well said. You seem to have really good understanding of not just the situation at hand, but the state of our culture in general.
I think most of us on this forum have accepted that's what it is
You were targeted for those promoted tweets because you were identified as someone who would engage (retweet, comment, click a link).
Exactly.
It's cheaper to not change an attraction at all.
Disney has not ”deemed the attraction offensive.” They’ve acknowledged that some of their films contain scenes that some of their audience finds racially insensitive. Not the same thing.
Twitter is not the “most dominant” social media platform. It might be with you, or even with your demographic. I have no idea what you mean by ”the media is not to be trusted,” what media? On social media, those are just people with opinions talking about stuff. Do you mean the news media? And who is obeying commands of the media? Seriously trying to follow your line of though here.
I’m not sure that anyone would disagree with this. Disney is a company that wants to make money. Good PR is expensive and hard to come by. There is a national conversation bout race relations happening, and they want to be part of that. Not sure who you’re debating with this one.
Yes, Disney knows this, too. Which is why they decided not to purchase it back in 2017.
Yes, it seems the PatF retheme plans weren’t as far a long as compared to how they usually do announcements like this. It was an opportune moment to announce the plan. They may still change their minds about it, given the pandemic and economic fallout.
Right. Which is why I think it’s worth discussing why Disney would bother. These changes (Splash, Jungle Cruise, etc) are costing a lot of money when they could just leave well enough alone. But they’re not, and it’s interesting to think about why that is.
My comment was towards the mainstream media, who mostly report on the negative aspects of whatever is happening with the company at the time.
What I laid out on my original post - which by the way you dragged me into because this thread wasn’t touched in three months, was simply laid out in detail. I’m honestly not sure if it is you truly not understanding or your just choosing not to in sake of making your argument.
You did not include enough detail for me to understand what you’re trying to say. I asked for clarification. You don’t have to provide it, but please don’t insinuate that I’m playing obtuse to make a point.
Suprisingly, Disney doesn't consider bigoted comments to be "political" and certainly doesn't want to be involved with anyone like that. If "Woke" means to be aware that everyone isn't a WASP/straight/male, then yeah, they are.
When referencing the mainstream media, I’m talking about the entire industry that is responsible for giving the public daily information. Pinpointing them to a tee is absolutely time consuming for me at the moment, however I still managed to write a lengthy response that some came to understand. I think it’s you playing devils advocate here which by all means do so. I suspected members of the forum would come along to dissect my response but here’s the thing. You along with everyone else knows exactly what the mainstream is and how a huge chunk of the public finds it untrustworthy.
Most of the public receives their information through the mainstream media and most of the things they report are entirely shrouded in darkness and so far bent from the truth that it triggers people. And in turn these people go on social media and spread more of that negativity like a virus.
What?
What evidence do you need? I’m talking in regards of Twitter’s algorithm. There is always an explosive amount of content being added and discussion being held on that service at all times of the day. By chance, are you on Twitter?
I responded as a gentlemen because I believe we can go somewhere and at least come to terms of an understanding. Just not into the dissection of every little thing you disagree with.
You do realize that the word “coincidence” can mean “things happening at the same time,” right?