News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[EagleScout610]

I still think the Princess Fairytale Hall would be a good spot for a new dark ride.

There already was one. Lol

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I still think the Princess Fairytale Hall would be a good spot for a new dark ride.

It was the spot of a good old dark ride.

 

[Brer Panther]

There already was one. Lol

It was the spot of a good old dark ride.

Yeah... it'd be nice if they made that space a dark ride again, though. But I have the feeling that won't happen for a long time (if ever).

 

[drizgirl]

There already was one. Lol

The replacement is across the way and is called the 7 Dwarf Mine Train.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

The replacement is across the way and is called the 7 Dwarf Mine Train.

Which sits on the space of another former attraction.

There have been many unfortunate things to happen to The Magic Kingdom in the last half century, but replacing a ride with a meet n greet is probably in the top 5.

 

[drizgirl]

Which sits on the space of another former attraction.

There have been many unfortunate things to happen to The Magic Kingdom in the last half century, but replacing a ride with a meet n greet is probably in the top 5.

The meet and greet on the old PFTH was originally slotted to be where the Mine Train is now. They never planned to add a net new ride. They intended to add the meet and greet. They just ended up shuffling where it was going before the plans were finalized.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

The meet and greet on the old PFTH was originally slotted to be where the Mine Train is now. They never planned to add a net new ride. They intended to add the meet and greet. They just ended up shuffling where it was going before the plans were finalized.

The original plan did net a new ride, the fairy flat ride in pixie hollow.

 

[larryz]

Yeup. Remember how the Redhead Change announcement got boo'd on stage? Imagine the BackSplash backlash. It'd be nuts

FTFY.

C'mon, people, don't leave punny on the table...

 

[larryz]

The replacement is across the way and is called the 7 Dwarf Mine Train.

Actually, I'd call it the 7th of a Dwarf Mine Train. It's just too darn short.

 

[Donaldfan1934]

How is it possible that I never realized there's space for another E-ticket (or even a land expansion) in NoS/CC?

I mean, they've tunneled under the railroad before, and they can do it again. It even looks like they could connect NoS and CC around the back of HM and Splash if they wanted to.

My mind is officially blown.

 

[dman1373]

I always thought that they could build a building on top of part of the speedway that could hold another dark ride, then they could have underneath the building a led screen of like the sun and clouds or something......so it'll make the speedway more tomorrowlandy and it allows for more space for a dark ride.

 

[dman1373]

And hopefully all these cuts that they have been doing will lead to then delaying splash mountains replacement, atleast until I go next year

 

[JoeCamel]

I always thought that they could build a building on top of part of the speedway that could hold another dark ride, then they could have underneath the building a led screen of like the sun and clouds or something......so it'll make the speedway more tomorrowlandy and it allows for more space for a dark ride.

All so kids can drive go karts on a guiderail? I just don't think it is in the budget but if they keep shrinking the track it can go indoors and virtual soon.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

All so kids can drive go karts on a guiderail? I just don't think it is in the budget but if they keep shrinking the track it can go indoors and virtual soon.

What would you like to see in that space?

 

[JoeCamel]

What would you like to see in that space?

Anything of quality. The speedway's days are long past.

 

[Brer Panther]

And hopefully all these cuts that they have been doing will lead to then delaying splash mountains replacement, atleast until I go next year

Or, better yet, cancel it entirely.

 

[_caleb]

I always thought that they could build a building on top of part of the speedway that could hold another dark ride, then they could have underneath the building a led screen of like the sun and clouds or something......so it'll make the speedway more tomorrowlandy and it allows for more space for a dark ride.

They’d definitely need to convert to electric cars for this to work

 

[EagleScout610]

Made this for a Discord chat. Anything that needs to be fixed?

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

My blue-sky arm-chair idea has always been to put in a new show building where speedway is. Fantasyland facing it would be an Alice Dark Ride with appropriate theming, and then the building morphs into tomorrowlans theming and there is a second dark ride facade facing Tomorrowland.

Just for fun, here's the Disneyland Alice/Toad/Pan building plot laid over the Indy Speedway - to scale, of course.

The whole complex is highlighted Pink for clarity - Pan's share of the building is outlined Red, Toad's outlined Orange, and Alice's outlined Purple (worth noting that Alice is 2 stories - at points it travels over top of Mr. Toad, and at others over its own ride path):

I also outlined WDW's Pooh in Blue, which USED to be the Mr. Toad building. You can see how much larger it is than DL's Toad building - but then, WDW's Toad had two separate ride tracks where DL's only has one.

The bolded areas are the rides respective entrances. Alice's facade faces away from the Pan and Toad side of the building - in theory, if you gave that space over to something Tomorrowland-y, you *could* have the Alice side face the Teacups and still transition from it before reaching the entrance to the other attraction.

Now, it's also worth mentioning that these DL rides are tiiiiny . . . Built in the mid-to-late 50's, Disney basically *can't* build anything this size anymore and get away with it, if only for the lack of access for emergencies (not to mention the sheer creative power it takes to do so much in so little space - Alice wasn't built on top of Toad because they just FELT like it). The layouts of these DL dark rides are genius, but can't just be replicated without serious modifications because of new regulations).

That said, the Speedyway plot clearly offers enough space to expand everything outward in a way that would be suitable. If they really wanted, there's basically no *real* reason you couldn't build an Alice ride in the style of the DL attraction that meets today's codes and uses more space, and have it adjoin to another building of whatever size and shape that features its own Tomorrowland attraction. You could do that and still have plenty of space left on the Speedway plot for something else.

Not that I think Disney's looking to do ANY of this, but it's fun to think about.

EDITED To Add: Fun Fact, both DL's Snow White and Pinocchio Dark Rides (plus part of their Village Haus) could fit on the plot of Mickey's Philharmagic. And you could fit ALL FIVE of DL's Fantasyland Dark Rides on the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train Plot.

 

[Bocabear]

Just for fun, here's the Disneyland Alice/Toad/Pan building plot laid over the Indy Speedway - to scale, of course.

The whole complex is highlighted Pink for clarity - Pan's share of the building is outlined Red, Toad's outlined Orange, and Alice's outlined Purple (worth noting that Alice is 2 stories - at points it travels over top of Mr. Toad, and at others over its own ride path):

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I also outlined WDW's Pooh in Blue, which USED to be the Mr. Toad building. You can see how much larger it is than DL's Toad building - but then, WDW's Toad had two separate ride tracks where DL's only has one.

The bolded areas are the rides respective entrances. Alice's facade faces away from the Pan and Toad side of the building - in theory, if you gave that space over to something Tomorrowland-y, you *could* have the Alice side face the Teacups and still transition from it before reaching the entrance to the other attraction.

Now, it's also worth mentioning that these DL rides are tiiiiny . . . Built in the mid-to-late 50's, Disney basically *can't* build anything this size anymore and get away with it, if only for the lack of access for emergencies (not to mention the sheer creative power it takes to do so much in so little space - Alice wasn't built on top of Toad because they just FELT like it). The layouts of these DL dark rides are genius, but can't just be replicated without serious modifications because of new regulations).

That said, the Speedyway plot clearly offers enough space to expand everything outward in a way that would be suitable. If they really wanted, there's basically no *real* reason you couldn't build an Alice ride in the style of the DL attraction that meets today's codes and uses more space, and have it adjoin to another building of whatever size and shape that features its own Tomorrowland attraction. You could do that and still have plenty of space left on the Speedway plot for something else.

Not that I think Disney's looking to do ANY of this, but it's fun to think about.

It is fun to think about! So many possibilities... An Alice ride and a new double tracked longer experience Peter Pan and Neverland area replacing the Circus Splash Pad ... Retheme Barnstormer into a Tinkerbelle's Flight coaster.... I would really love an Alice ride to make a bit more sense out of the Teacups... sort of "finish the thought"...