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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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DisneyCane

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In a press conference yesterday, Governor Desantis said that all vaccination sites that the State of Florida is involved in will be required to be open seven days a week. This will hopefully put a dent in the issue (at least in FL) of the extremely low number of shots given on the weekends. Over 25% of the shot giving capacity was just being thrown out by not doing it on the weekends.
 

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In a press conference yesterday, Governor Desantis said that all vaccination sites that the State of Florida is involved in will be required to be open seven days a week. This will hopefully put a dent in the issue (at least in FL) of the extremely low number of shots given on the weekends. Over 25% of the shot giving capacity was just being thrown out by not doing it on the weekends.
Goodness, they have only had 9 months to get the rollout planned. The miracle of actual getting the vaccine produced was achieved, and now it is faltering on pure logistics of distribution.

frustrated business GIF by Gordon Ramsay
 

GoofGoof

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It only took 9 months to develop a vaccine that usually takes 4 or more years to develop. Even with the distribution issues, we are still ahead of scheduled 👍
I will agree with that the day after my second jab ;)

I agree that the vaccine development timeline was a borderline miracle, but vaccines do nothing until they are stuck in someone’s arm. We need to ramp this up before people start to sour on it and decide not to bother getting it.
 

JoeCamel

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It only took 9 months to develop a vaccine that usually takes 4 or more years to develop. Even with the distribution issues, we are still ahead of scheduled 👍
Could you imagine the death toll if we had 4 more years of this? All the damage, it would be catastrophic for mankind. We could be wiped out by a bug...... Leaves the bugs in charge?
 

GoofGoof

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Interesting article on a survey around the prospects of a travel boom in 2021. Some highlights:
  • Only 14% of Americans have booked out of state travel so far for 2021
  • 50% of those surveyed said they plan to travel out of state within 6 months of vaccination
  • 61% said they would not feel comfortable traveling without the shot
  • Almost 2/3 of families earning $100K+ Plan to travel compared to only 37% making under $50K
  • 68% of those surveyed say they would eat out more after vaccination
For Disney that 2/3 number is huge if it holds true since that is a big demographic for them. It also skews by age with younger, lower income workers tending to me more impacted by layoffs and have less money saved. Either way, it seems Disney is heavily dependent on an efficient vaccine rollout program to jump start the parks. The longer that gets delayed the less of a summer they have.

 

MisterPenguin

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As much as the Feds have dropped the ball, to their credit, they did tell states to get ready to receive vaccines at the end of October. Yeah, that didn't happen, but, it should have been a wake-up call to the states. Any state that wasn't ready is on them. Their lack of financial resources is on the Feds since states can't print money nor (normally) borrow money.
 

Chip Chipperson

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Interesting article on a survey around the prospects of a travel boom in 2021. Some highlights:
  • Only 14% of Americans have booked out of state travel so far for 2021
  • 50% of those surveyed said they plan to travel out of state within 6 months of vaccination
  • 61% said they would not feel comfortable traveling without the shot
  • Almost 2/3 of families earning $100K+ Plan to travel compared to only 37% making under $50K
  • 68% of those surveyed say they would eat out more after vaccination
For Disney that 2/3 number is huge if it holds true since that is a big demographic for them. It also skews by age with younger, lower income workers tending to me more impacted by layoffs and have less money saved. Either way, it seems Disney is heavily dependent on an efficient vaccine rollout program to jump start the parks. The longer that gets delayed the less of a summer they have.


I booked a DVC stay for December this morning. The only question is how many of the people on the reservation will actually go with my wife and me if masks are still required. At this point, you couldn't keep me from making that trip if you blocked the entrance with Homer Simpson's imaginary dogs with bees in their mouths.
 

Kman

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I will agree with that the day after my second jab ;)

I agree that the vaccine development timeline was a borderline miracle, but vaccines do nothing until they are stuck in someone’s arm. We need to ramp this up before people start to sour on it and decide not to bother getting it.
I think what is missing here is perhaps some context. I would need to dig it up but I have heard some interviews that the reality is that there has been work done on coronavirus vaccines in the past 20 years due to SARS in Toronto and MERS in the Middle East. In both cases, work was started but stopped as the virus burned itself out and money was diverted to more pressing issues. The 9 months is still very impressive however there was work done in the past that helped the starting point of this vaccine development. The more important thing to consider is that MONEY is the big driver of what gets done. In both SARS and MERS the money dried up once the threat was gone. With COVID of course it is still a huge threat and shows no sign of stopping or slowing down without a vaccine (unlike both SARS and MERS). Money has been nearly endless since the spring (ie. Operation Warp Speed). It also helps that because COVID is so prolific, affecting the entire global community, that there are dozens of groups working on vaccines. SARS and MERS were quite localized and therefore not a huge interest to a large part of the global or scientific community thus attracting limited research.
 

dolbyman

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If all goes well we are eyeballing September/October 2021 again .. same trip WDW/D-Cruise/WDW.
No masks preferred, but if still required (and we have the vaccine) all good

So Canada and Germany, that's where the travel party members come from, better get this done by late summer... (and that new resistant strain from South Africa turns out to be a dud:hungover:)
 

Heppenheimer

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I think what is missing here is perhaps some context. I would need to dig it up but I have heard some interviews that the reality is that there has been work done on coronavirus vaccines in the past 20 years due to SARS in Toronto and MERS in the Middle East. In both cases, work was started but stopped as the virus burned itself out and money was diverted to more pressing issues. The 9 months is still very impressive however there was work done in the past that helped the starting point of this vaccine development. The more important thing to consider is that MONEY is the big driver of what gets done. In both SARS and MERS the money dried up once the threat was gone. With COVID of course it is still a huge threat and shows no sign of stopping or slowing down without a vaccine (unlike both SARS and MERS). Money has been nearly endless since the spring (ie. Operation Warp Speed). It also helps that because COVID is so prolific, affecting the entire global community, that there are dozens of groups working on vaccines. SARS and MERS were quite localized and therefore not a huge interest to a large part of the global or scientific community thus attracting limited research.
Plus, the very fact that we are in a raging, out-of-control pandemic, researchers accumulated the numbers they needed to determine efficacy much more quickly.
 

GoofGoof

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I received an update from my kid’s school today. In PA they are currently vaccinating the 1a group which includes healthcare workers and the school nurses are included. Teachers are in group 1B along with first responders and 75+. They are hoping to start vaccinating 1B in the 4th week of January. The school has to send the dept of health numbers of vaccines needed for that. It’s rolling out. Just taking some time.
 

Chomama

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Interesting article on a survey around the prospects of a travel boom in 2021. Some highlights:
  • Only 14% of Americans have booked out of state travel so far for 2021
  • 50% of those surveyed said they plan to travel out of state within 6 months of vaccination
  • 61% said they would not feel comfortable traveling without the shot
  • Almost 2/3 of families earning $100K+ Plan to travel compared to only 37% making under $50K
  • 68% of those surveyed say they would eat out more after vaccination
For Disney that 2/3 number is huge if it holds true since that is a big demographic for them. It also skews by age with younger, lower income workers tending to me more impacted by layoffs and have less money saved. Either way, it seems Disney is heavily dependent on an efficient vaccine rollout program to jump start the parks. The longer that gets delayed the less of a summer they have.

This seems directionally correct. We have a trip planned for early October that hinges on vaccination. We are in the key target demographic for Disney (4 kids, stay deluxe, eat in their restaurants etc etc). We would go with masks but not without a return of more key restaurants and entertainment. Just rides isn’t enough for us to shell out $5k for a few nights with early park
Closing and no chance to meet Mickey. Casual conversations with similar people say the same
 
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