Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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matt9112

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Bruce Scott told CNN he arrived at a Ft. Myers vaccination site at 1:30 a.m. and waited in a line for about 8 or 9 hours to get vaccinated.​
"Although I'm grateful to get the vaccine, I feel that there's got to be a better way to distribute this," he said afterward. "For people that really need it, elderly that might be disabled in some way, they can't endure this process, so there's got to be a better way to manage this."​

Yes, this is presumptuous of me, but... Hey, Florida man, there is a better way: Vote differently next time.

Do people not understand that if the people running a government fails the competency test, you vote in someone you hope will be more competent?
My county is also doing the free for all model but just like a disney E tickettheres a rush when demand outstrips supply. This will begin to disappear once full roll out is going on. However with that said a reservation system cant hurt however those will fill up in seconds...kind of like everyones favorite ride.
 

Parker in NYC

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The explosion of hospitalizations should be so incredibly alarming for everyone. I just don't understand the conspiracy theorists who say its fake. Where is the empathy?
OB77, that you’re still looking for empathy among those ranks is, well, adorable. But let me buy you some drinks and we’ll have a heart to heart about the reality of our predicament dating all the way back to February.
 

Patcheslee

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Here's the information from the Desantis presser this afternoon -

“To that end, I am directing the Florida Division of Emergency Management to partner with the Florida Department of Health to identify additional sites to administer the vaccine and to be open 7 days per week, including the conversion of state-supported testing sites and partnerships with places of worship in underserved communities. I am also directing the Division to hire additional nurses to support these sites and accelerate vaccinations in Florida’s over 3,000 assisted living facilities. We will continue to build on these efforts in the coming weeks.”

"ORLANDO HEALTH VACCINATION SITES

Today, Orlando Health announced the opening of the following community vaccination sites:

o Orlando Health South Seminole Hospital

o Orlando Health Dr. P. Phillips Hospital

o Orlando Health Winnie Palmer Hospital for Women & Babies

o Orlando Health – Health Central Hospital

o Orlando Health South Lake Hospital

o Orlando Health St. Cloud Hospital

o Bayfront Health St. Petersburg

  • Orlando Health has the capacity to administer over 10,000 vaccines per week. As is the case with all vaccinations in the state of Florida, vaccines will be reserved for individuals 65 years of age and older, frontline healthcare workers, staff and residents of long-term care facilities and individuals hospitals deem to be extremely vulnerable to COVID-19.

  • To receive a vaccine at one of the Orlando Health locations, please visit vaccine.orlandohealth.com to register."

He also said this about hospitals distributing the vaccine -

“Hospitals that are not doing a good job of getting the vaccine out” will lose their allotment of vaccines, DeSantis said.

I've been wondering this for a couple weeks since hearing about slow distribution. Governors in many states activated National Guard units to assist with food distribution, covid testing, hospital support. Do they have units helping now with vaccine distribution? If not, why?
 

JoeCamel

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I've been wondering this for a couple weeks since hearing about slow distribution. Governors in many states activated National Guard units to assist with food distribution, covid testing, hospital support. Do they have units helping now with vaccine distribution? If not, why?
Part of the problem is the lack of support for the states from the feds, the states are on the hook for the cost right now seeing as the senate blocked aid for state and local entities.
 

correcaminos

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Follow up on the pharmacist who deliberately ruined those 500+ doses of the Moderna vaccine -

"The 46-year-old pharmacist, whose license was granted in 1997, was "an admitted conspiracy theorist," and told investigators he believed the Moderna vaccine "was not safe for people and could harm them and change their DNA," Det. Sgt. Eric Sutherland said in the probable cause statement."

"Brandenburg gave "a full confession that he had done exactly this. His intent was to destroy the medication. He did the things that he was accused of," Ozaukee County District Attorney Adam Gerol told a judge during the Zoom video conference hearing."

"The police alleged Brandenburg tampered with the vials not only with the full knowledge they'd be rendered "effectively useless" but also knowing that anyone who received those doses would be put at greater risk.

Fifty-seven of the compromised doses had already been administered by the time they were believed to be ineffective, Aurora Health Care Medical Group President Dr. Jeff Bahr said at a virtual press conference Thursday. The recipients of those doses were notified, Bahr said, and at the time, he said the remaining spoiled doses were then discarded.

Gerol, however, said the initial reports on the status of the vaccine vials weren't accurate.

The DA said he was informed today that the vaccine doses that had been left out weren't discarded but were sequestered by the hospital.

Investigators are waiting on tests to determine if they were damaged in a way that rendered them unusable. The charges against Brandenburg could change depending on the status of the vials, according to Gerol.

"The value of the drugs was somewhere between $8,00 and $12,000, but that, unfortunately all depends on whether they were in fact damaged or destroyed," Gerol said. "If they were not, despite the defendant's intent, there is no reckless endangering safety."

"You possibly have a crime in Wisconsin known as an attempted criminal damage to property," Gerol explained. "That would be a misdemeanor."

Faced with that still-open technical question, the judge ordered the suspect to be released on a $10,000 signature bond. Brandenburg, who was fired from the hospital after his arrest, was ordered to surrender his firearms and was barred from serving as a pharmacist."

Ugh I was discussing this with friends who are in medical professions like doctors, nurses, pharmacists etc on FB a couple days ago when he was first found to be intentionally found to attempting to destroy the vaccines. The consensus was if you are anti-vax in any way for any vaccine then it's time to get out of the medical profession. So many were disgusted and stating how many lives these people are putting at risk. One friend is a pharmacist and in particular they were rather heated. I can't say I disagree.

One of my friends takes their kids to a doc who is anti-vax because one is autistic. That doctor is known in our community and just spews some awful things. So my friend has un vaccinated kids and is pushing for 5 days a week no restrictions in schools. I just don't get it.

Please get your vaccines when you can. It will save lives.
 

Heppenheimer

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Ugh I was discussing this with friends who are in medical professions like doctors, nurses, pharmacists etc on FB a couple days ago when he was first found to be intentionally found to attempting to destroy the vaccines. The consensus was if you are anti-vax in any way for any vaccine then it's time to get out of the medical profession. So many were disgusted and stating how many lives these people are putting at risk. One friend is a pharmacist and in particular they were rather heated. I can't say I disagree.

One of my friends takes their kids to a doc who is anti-vax because one is autistic. That doctor is known in our community and just spews some awful things. So my friend has un vaccinated kids and is pushing for 5 days a week no restrictions in schools. I just don't get it.

Please get your vaccines when you can. It will save lives.
Although they generally pose less of a threat to public health than an anti-vaxxer, also be on the look-out for "lyme-literate specialists" or someone who claims to specialize in autoimmune diseases that is not board-certified in the relevant discipline, like rheumatology, immunology, hematology, or gastroenterology.

From what I read about this pharmacist, it appears he also forgot what he should have learned in general biology about the different structures and functions of mRNA and DNA. There simply is no plausible biochemical mechanism for RNA changing the structure of DNA, or inserting itself into the host genome.

And yes, get the vaccine as soon as you are eligible. As of this week, our hospital will have completed the first round of vaccination of front-line staff. So far, not a single case of zomby-ism. I'm can also verify that I am not receiving microchip coded commands from Bill Gates, George Soros or any of the other members of the so-called "globalist cabal".
 

Kevin_W

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As of this week, our hospital will have completed the first round of vaccination of front-line staff. So far, not a single case of zomby-ism. I'm can also verify that I am not receiving microchip coded commands from Bill Gates, George Soros or any of the other members of the so-called "globalist cabal".

That sounds exactly like something a zombie would say!


I am still impatiently waiting on my wife's turn to be vaccinated (and mine, for that matter, but I know I'm say down the list). Wexner Medical Center has been quite slow.
 

Chip Chipperson

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Although they generally pose less of a threat to public health than an anti-vaxxer, also be on the look-out for "lyme-literate specialists" or someone who claims to specialize in autoimmune diseases that is not board-certified in the relevant discipline, like rheumatology, immunology, hematology, or gastroenterology.

From what I read about this pharmacist, it appears he also forgot what he should have learned in general biology about the different structures and functions of mRNA and DNA. There simply is no plausible biochemical mechanism for RNA changing the structure of DNA, or inserting itself into the host genome.

And yes, get the vaccine as soon as you are eligible. As of this week, our hospital will have completed the first round of vaccination of front-line staff. So far, not a single case of zomby-ism. I'm can also verify that I am not receiving microchip coded commands from Bill Gates, George Soros or any of the other members of the so-called "globalist cabal".

I know a nurse who said she won't get the vaccine because "it changes your DNA." I don't know where people ever got that idea or why they would see it somewhere and think it's believable.

As for your last paragraph, that's exactly what the microchip has programmed you to say. :D
 

Heppenheimer

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I know a nurse who said she won't get the vaccine because "it changes your DNA." I don't know where people ever got that idea or why they would see it somewhere and think it's believable.

As for your last paragraph, that's exactly what the microchip has programmed you to say. :D
Well, to be fair, I've always been an internationalist, so the microchip didn't really change anything.
 

GoofGoof

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I've been wondering this for a couple weeks since hearing about slow distribution. Governors in many states activated National Guard units to assist with food distribution, covid testing, hospital support. Do they have units helping now with vaccine distribution? If not, why?
This is a good point. I think part of the problem seems to be an attempt to limit who can get the vaccine. They are targeting hospitals and long term care facilities only still in most states. Those are smaller distribution centers. I think as bad as the scene looks with elderly people camping out overnight in FL the concept of large scale vaccination centers is probably the way to go. 1,000+ people a day per site. Setup 100 of those sites (or 50 sites with 2,000 shots a day) and you are at 100K people a day getting vaccinated. Huge potential to ramp up. If they need to use National Guard to run logistics at the sites for traffic control and crowd control I think that’s an appropriate use.
 

Heppenheimer

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This is a good point. I think part of the problem seems to be an attempt to limit who can get the vaccine. They are targeting hospitals and long term care facilities only still in most states. Those are smaller distribution centers. I think as bad as the scene looks with elderly people camping out overnight in FL the concept of large scale vaccination centers is probably the way to go. 1,000+ people a day per site. Setup 100 of those sites (or 50 sites with 2,000 shots a day) and you are at 100K people a day getting vaccinated. Huge potential to ramp up. If they need to use National Guard to run logistics at the sites for traffic control and crowd control I think that’s an appropriate use.
The National Guard seems like a good solution, but I wonder how much of this would be stealing from Peter to pay Paul. A significant percentage of medical personnel in the Guard and Reserves work a similar civilian job, particularly nurses and physicians and EMTs. Activating them for vaccine administration may just drain some of the assets already at work in the civilian sector.

Using the Guard for traffic control, though, might be a good use.
 

GoofGoof

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The National Guard seems like a good solution, but I wonder how much of this would be stealing from Peter to pay Paul. A significant percentage of medical personnel in the Guard and Reserves work a similar civilian job, particularly nurses and physicians and EMTs. Activating them for vaccine administration may just drain some of the assets already at work in the civilian sector.

Using the Guard for traffic control, though, might be a good use.
Without all of the details it’s hard to know what the bottlenecks are in the process. Is it a logistical issue? Is it lack of qualified medical staff to administer the shots? I know at some hospitals they definitely said there was a conflict of priorities. The more people they pulled off of regular duty to administer shots the shorter staffed they were and many places are already facing a shortage of nurses. If it’s logistics and not medical skill that is needed the states have the resources to pull that off. It’s just a matter of organizing better.
 

lazyboy97o

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The National Guard seems like a good solution, but I wonder how much of this would be stealing from Peter to pay Paul. A significant percentage of medical personnel in the Guard and Reserves work a similar civilian job, particularly nurses and physicians and EMTs. Activating them for vaccine administration may just drain some of the assets already at work in the civilian sector.

Using the Guard for traffic control, though, might be a good use.
Asking as someone with absolutely no knowledge, how much training is required to actually administer the shot? Is it something you could train people to do properly while others more qualified handle preparing the syringes with the appropriate dose? Is it possible for this do be a temporary job program?
 
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