EPCOT Remy's Ratatouille Adventure coming to Epcot

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
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You mean that fountain? Oops, wrong park... 😉
 

hpyhnt 1000

Well-Known Member
The backstage view is amazingly bad. But they accepted it.
I feel it’s especially bad here as most Disney backstage areas are usually still pretty decent. But this? The exposed power substation, the go-away green show building that does anything but go away, the sad looking CM bus shelters; there’s just an overall shabbiness to the entire area (maybe it will improve once construction is officially done?).

At the very least, switching the paint colors of the show building and substation area would improve things. Green in the substation would actually hide the green transformers and beige on the show building would look a lot more cohesive with the rest of the facade.
 

Marc Davis Fan

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The backstage view is amazingly bad. But they accepted it.

This is a powerful example of how current Disney isn't taking the holistic experience into account anymore.

Think of The Magic Kingdom, with carefully-planned views of the distant castle from the TTC, etc., to create that celebrated "arrival experience."

Passing in front of massive, totally un-hidden backstage buildings as part of your arrival experience to a Disney theme park is worse than I suspect current Disney decision-makers realize (or they don't care, as long as it doesn't have a substantial impact in the short-term). I used to notice this at Universal parks, and think "this is one of the things that makes them feel cheaper and less immersive than Disney" - oh well.

The holistic experience is a major part of what made Disney different - something that should be more valuable to them today than ever before, considering their competition.
 

Prototype82

Well-Known Member
Fair enough. Just another corner to cut from Disney, because they know 95% of the guests won't care or notice.
I think it's just a last minute design decision. One I'm not crazy about. Awhile back half of the facade (with the blue shutters) was a weathered textured brown and the other half was a warm white. Much like in the concept art. Made it look like two facades. It was nice. In the end someone must not have approved of it or felt it didn't work. So they went with all cream and weathered it. It's not inauthentic...but I agree with some of the comments here that it's just not as interesting.
 

Notes from Neverland

Well-Known Member
It's been said countless times, but are we really surprised by the backstage views when the approach to Disney's Animal Kingdom by bus is a giant factory and "floating" rocks on sticks? One doesn't excuse the other of course. It just shows the idea of protecting views from outside the park has been toast for a while and it's disintegrating from within the parks as well.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
It's been said countless times, but are we really surprised by the backstage views when the approach to Disney's Animal Kingdom by bus is a giant factory and "floating" rocks on sticks? One doesn't excuse the other of course. It just shows the idea of protecting views from outside the park has been toast for a while and it's disintegrating from within the parks as well.
Except that the placement of Ratatouille and the long walk of nothingness were very much driven by the views from the Skyliner.
 

Little Green Men

Well-Known Member
This is a powerful example of how current Disney isn't taking the holistic experience into account anymore.

Think of The Magic Kingdom, with carefully-planned views of the distant castle from the TTC, etc., to create that celebrated "arrival experience."

Passing in front of massive, totally un-hidden backstage buildings as part of your arrival experience to a Disney theme park is worse than I suspect current Disney decision-makers realize (or they don't care, as long as it doesn't have a substantial impact in the short-term). I used to notice this at Universal parks, and think "this is one of the things that makes them feel cheaper and less immersive than Disney" - oh well.

The holistic experience is a major part of what made Disney different - something that should be more valuable to them today than ever before, considering their competition.
Or think of the MK skyway and it’s awful show......
 

Marc Davis Fan

Well-Known Member
Except that the placement of Ratatouille and the long walk of nothingness were very much driven by the views from the Skyliner.

This is interesting. Can you explain further? They placed it like that for the purpose of being visible from the Skyliner?

When I originally heard about Ratatouille being a tentative addition, I imagined that the entrance was going to be the current Impressions de France / BatB entrance (and the exit being the current IdF/BatB exit), with the ride located immediately behind the France pavilion and thus requiring no new façades. Ironically, that might have made the Skyliner view better, since it would have avoided views of where the on-stage façades end / backstage begins (it would have just looked like an uninteresting green building, without "spoiling" any "magic").

Or think of the MK skyway and it’s awful show......

Now imagine that the MK skyway's views constituted the park's arrival experience...
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Yes, the expansion area is formerly backstage area that would have been prominently visible from the Skyliner. It was turned into onstage area in part to clean up the view.
Backstage is still visible; it’s a valid argument what is visible of backstage looks worse than previously. An accepted problem with Skyliner in the development stage were the backstage views.

As it is, cleaning up with the Rat expansion fell apart when they decided not to turf the QSR and restroom roofs.
 

castlecake2.0

Well-Known Member
Backstage is still visible; it’s a valid argument what is visible of backstage looks worse than previously. An accepted problem with Skyliner in the development stage were the backstage views.

As it is, cleaning up with the Rat expansion fell apart when they decided not to turf the QSR and restroom roo

is there any landscaping to be done at least? I’ve noticed in my travels on the skyliner the last couple days there’s lots of areas where landscaping was cleared for the skyliner route and then looks like horticulture never came back around to fix it. Clean up the area and plant some trees and it would at least look like they cared.
 

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