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News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

EricsBiscuit

Well-Known Member
Ah, behold the advancement of technology, here captured by these two rides side by side!

On one hand, a decades old ride, built when technology was sparser and as such Imagineers could only create a basic, generic, warehouse box to contain the ride. Whereas on the other side we have the clear superiority of 2020 technology, behold the curves, unique style and-

Oh sorry, got them confused. Uh, somethingsomething if only the pandemic hadnt happened it would look better somethingsomething?
Yeah let’s compare a ride that is not complete with a complete ride from a vantage point no guest will see! Great idea
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
Shanghai was laid out so the show building is mostly hidden. That is not the case at MK.

Believe it or not... but it's actually worse in Shanghai. It's REALLY bad in Shanghai. There is one "money shot" looking head on into the land and I think that is all that people tend to be shown.

Major arteries (the Parade Route in Pink) and an entire land (Toy Story in Red) look directly at the uncovered show building. To make matters worse you even can more or less circumnavigate to the other side of the thing to take the walkway to the Star Wars Experience (in green).

It only works if you explore the park in a clockwise fashion, which is very odd.

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I won't excuse the MK execution as being leaps and bounds better... but it is actually oddly a bit more tucked away. However it goes to show that this was never a well designed ride for sight lines.
 
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Bocabear

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i really wish theyd bring over the pirates area from shanghai, because thats the best themed area in any disney park imo
I would agree...especially sine we have the crappiest cliff-notes version of Pirates... An overhaul of our existing Space Mountain to add effects etc, and a Pirates Mini-Land would have been a much nicer 50th addition.. Tron is fun, but it is super short...and there is nothing to extend the Experience… an End Of The Line club themed restaurant or additional attractions. The Original Space Mountain, while a longer ride, also had the speedramp exit and Home Of Future Living....which was like a mini dark ride attached to the end... Maybe if they had rethemed the Speedway, Starlight Ray's and the Tomorrowland Concourse to a TRON theme it would help feel like more of a net gain for the park instead of a ride plunked down....
 

TrainsOfDisney

Well-Known Member
especially sine we have the crappiest cliff-notes version of Pirates...
I think the one in Florida tells a better and more complete story than the one in California. The entrance, Q, loading area, and exit all tell a complete immersive story. Unlike California.

Now of course I like the extra scenes in California, but I think some fans (me too until recently) are a bit hard on the Florida version.
 

deeevo

Well-Known Member
Believe it or not... but it's actually worse in Shanghai. It's REALLY bad in Shanghai. There is one "money shot" looking head on into the land and I think that is all that people tend to be shown.

Major arteries (the Parade Route in Pink) and an entire land (Toy Story in Red) look directly at the uncovered show building. To make matters worse you even can more or less circumnavigate to the other side of the thing to take the walkway to the Star Wars Experience (in green).

It only works if you explore the park in a clockwise fashion, which is very odd.

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I won't excuse the MK execution as being leaps and bounds better... but it is actually oddly a bit more tucked away. However it goes to show that this was never a well designed ride for sight lines.
I think they gave up on sight lines.
 

Bocabear

Well-Known Member
I think the one in Florida tells a better and more complete story than the one in California. The entrance, Q, loading area, and exit all tell a complete immersive story. Unlike California.

Now of course I like the extra scenes in California, but I think some fans (me too until recently) are a bit hard on the Florida version.
The extra scenes make the ride...they really do. I LOVED our version until I saw California....and Paris.... and Shanghai. I think they are all superior to ours. Yes I agree our queue is better...but we don't have the Blue Bayou either...
 

rle4lunch

Well-Known Member
The extra scenes make the ride...they really do. I LOVED our version until I saw California....and Paris.... and Shanghai. I think they are all superior to ours. Yes I agree our queue is better...but we don't have the Blue Bayou either...


Biggest disappointment to visiting DL for the first time at 25 years old, after a lifetime goer to WDW, was seeing how much they cheaped out on Pirates at WDW.
 

dmw

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
The extra scenes make the ride...they really do. I LOVED our version until I saw California....and Paris.... and Shanghai. I think they are all superior to ours. Yes I agree our queue is better...but we don't have the Blue Bayou either...
WDW does have Blue Bayou. It's just in the wrong park, attached to the wrong ride, and serves Mexican food.

San Angel Inn, Epcot, El Rio Del Tiempo 😜 :cautious:
 

Bocabear

Well-Known Member
WDW does have Blue Bayou. It's just in the wrong park, attached to the wrong ride, and serves Mexican food.

San Angel Inn, Epcot, El Rio Del Tiempo 😜 :cautious:
LOL!! Well Maybe they could build a Blue Bayou for Tiana's Place when they switch over Splash Mountain... It would make sense to do that...I guess which means they would never build it...
 

SilentWindODoom

Well-Known Member
It only works if you explore the park in a clockwise fashion, which is very odd.

I explore every park that way. Old school exploration to the future. Cool indoor pavilion after schlepping around Future World then pavilion with nothing in it last. Rush to Star Tours first. I've never thought of any other way. It just seems natural.

i really wish theyd bring over the pirates area from shanghai, because thats the best themed area in any disney park imo

I would agree...especially sine we have the crappiest cliff-notes version of Pirates... An overhaul of our existing Space Mountain to add effects etc, and a Pirates Mini-Land would have been a much nicer 50th addition.. Tron is fun, but it is super short...and there is nothing to extend the Experience… an End Of The Line club themed restaurant or additional attractions. The Original Space Mountain, while a longer ride, also had the speedramp exit and Home Of Future Living....which was like a mini dark ride attached to the end... Maybe if they had rethemed the Speedway, Starlight Ray's and the Tomorrowland Concourse to a TRON theme it would help feel like more of a net gain for the park instead of a ride plunked down....

And tear down Caribbean Plaza? You'd lose so much of our classic Adventureland, not to mention that while Shanghai may be a more impressive technical spectacle, the complaints over the auction scene are nothing compared to tearing out everything that we have for more Jack and screens.

I think the one in Florida tells a better and more complete story than the one in California. The entrance, Q, loading area, and exit all tell a complete immersive story. Unlike California.

Now of course I like the extra scenes in California, but I think some fans (me too until recently) are a bit hard on the Florida version.

You read that blog post about Marc Davis's edit of the Orlando version and his rework of the storyline? It really does make you appreciate everything, even though the fire scene would be nice.
 

Bocabear

Well-Known Member
I explore every park that way. Old school exploration to the future. Cool indoor pavilion after schlepping around Future World then pavilion with nothing in it last. Rush to Star Tours first. I've never thought of any other way. It just seems natural.





And tear down Caribbean Plaza? You'd lose so much of our classic Adventureland, not to mention that while Shanghai may be a more impressive technical spectacle, the complaints over the auction scene are nothing compared to tearing out everything that we have for more Jack and screens.



You read that blog post about Marc Davis's edit of the Orlando version and his rework of the storyline? It really does make you appreciate everything, even though the fire scene would be nice.
Did anyone mention tearing down Caribbean Plaza? I am thinking ADD, not REMOVE...Add more of the Pirates Cove area to our existing Caribbean Plaza...EXPAND the area.. Caribbean Plaza was built in the 70s after the park was up and running... The theming was never amazing...it was nice. The added Marquee with Pirate Skeletons added a bit more, especially after the loss of the barker bird... That area could have always used more.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Did anyone mention tearing down Caribbean Plaza? I am thinking ADD, not REMOVE...Add more of the Pirates Cove area to our existing Caribbean Plaza...EXPAND the area.. Caribbean Plaza was built in the 70s after the park was up and running... The theming was never amazing...it was nice. The added Marquee with Pirate Skeletons added a bit more, especially after the loss of the barker bird... That area could have always used more.
They already threw enough movie stuff at the Plaza. If someone wants to see it done right go to Shanghai or Paris.
 

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