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News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

EricsBiscuit

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Update from the Swiss Family:
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matt9112

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I’m excited for Tron, but just like the other WDW coasters of this decade (SDMT, SDD) I wish it was longer. The first pic shows the size of the canopy loop. It takes up almost half the area of SM, but is only about a 10 second run. They could have fit more track.
I meannnn we knew that since its same as the one in asia...its critically too short. As you said 7DMT is in the same boat....its really across thd board pick your favorite new ride and the ride length will be meh. I think theres an inherent desire for more cycles per hour vs just engineering more capacity via ride length and in this case block sections. The modern demand for these parks is amazingly high yet they haven't taken that into account with anything new. FOP is the only new ride that i feel like i got some good value out of it ride length wise.
 

UNCgolf

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I meannnn we knew that since its same as the one in asia...its critically too short. As you said 7DMT is in the same boat....its really across thd board pick your favorite new ride and the ride length will be meh. I think theres an inherent desire for more cycles per hour vs just engineering more capacity via ride length and in this case block sections. The modern demand for these parks is amazingly high yet they haven't taken that into account with anything new. FOP is the only new ride that i feel like i got some good value out of it ride length wise.

I think Rise of the Resistance is one of the longest rides they've built (at least if you're counting all the preshows -- and I think they're a fundamental part of the ride so you should), but obviously not too many people have actually been able to experience that.

Still, in general, you're right. As crowds have grown, they've essentially decreased capacity. They aren't building much like the classic EPCOT people eaters which were able to both board huge numbers of people per hour and lasted 10-15 minutes (or much longer in the case of UoE).
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Hopefully it’s only for the 50th.

Unfortunately, it ain't. (Unless we can convince WDW otherwise with complaints.)

This is not for the 50th anniversary. This is a castle refurbishment and a new permanent art direction for the castle. Any 50th overlay has not yet been announced and will be in addition to this.
 

J4546

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I really wish theyd have brought Treasure Cove to the Magic Kingdom instead of Tron coaster but oh well. If your gonna take something from the Shanghai Park, Treasure cove is amazing, and its pirate themed. Orlando the only disney location thats near the carribean in Florida. And florida has a lot of Pirate lore in the state as well. Why does Orlando have the worst Pirates ride and no pirate themed area?
 

Movielover

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Orlando the only disney location thats near the carribean in Florida. And florida has a lot of Pirate lore in the state as well. Why does Orlando have the worst Pirates ride and no pirate themed area?

It's exactly that reason why Pirates was a afterthought. They figured East Coast would not be as attracted to the mythos of pirates since its part of the history there. Which is why WDW's Frontierland was going to be the big star with Western River complex.
 

owlsandcoffee

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I really wish theyd have brought Treasure Cove to the Magic Kingdom instead of Tron coaster but oh well. If your gonna take something from the Shanghai Park, Treasure cove is amazing, and its pirate themed. Orlando the only disney location thats near the carribean in Florida. And florida has a lot of Pirate lore in the state as well. Why does Orlando have the worst Pirates ride and no pirate themed area?

@Movielover is correct. Where Big Thunder is now there was supposed to be a large complex called Thunder Mesa, with a Cowboy version of PoTC called "Western River Expedition" inside of it. The energy crisis happened, and by the time Disney had money to spend they were planning EPCOT. Thunder Mesa never got built.

On top of that, everyone was asking "Where is Pirates????" when WDW opened. Marc Davis was tasked with adapting it for Florida, and took some things away so it would complement Western River Expedition. Thus the worse version of Pirates.

If you want to read about it here is the blog post where I learned all this stuff.
 

doctornick

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@Movielover is correct. Where Big Thunder is now there was supposed to be a large complex called Thunder Mesa, with a Cowboy version of PoTC called "Western River Expedition" inside of it. The energy crisis happened, and by the time Disney had money to spend they were planning EPCOT. Thunder Mesa never got built.

On top of that, everyone was asking "Where is Pirates????" when WDW opened. Marc Davis was tasked with adapting it for Florida, and took some things away so it would complement Western River Expedition. Thus the worse version of Pirates.

If you want to read about it here is the blog post where I learned all this stuff.

Also, they had already build some of the AAs for WRE and those got repurposed for Listen to the Land once Epcot was being built.
 

matt9112

Well-Known Member
I think Rise of the Resistance is one of the longest rides they've built (at least if you're counting all the preshows -- and I think they're a fundamental part of the ride so you should), but obviously not too many people have actually been able to experience that.

Still, in general, you're right. As crowds have grown, they've essentially decreased capacity. They aren't building much like the classic EPCOT people eaters which were able to both board huge numbers of people per hour and lasted 10-15 minutes (or much longer in the case of UoE).
Yeah sorry i live in florida and had an AP for years and still haven't riden ROTR...nothing like having a real job am i right?
 

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