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Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?

Jrb1979

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You are making the leap that 90% of the virus is eliminated. It is highly possible that the 90% still happens, it just gets spread out. It is also possible that some of that gets stopped if/when there is an effective and widely available vaccine. If one of the current phase 3 vaccines works and is widely available then flattening and elongating could lead to an overall lower number at the expense of unsustainable economic damage. However, what if these vaccines don't work and it takes another two years to get one that does?

You also I'm not sure you can compare the peaks in Spain to the current peak in Florida. I can't find a chart for Spain but going from memory of the testing numbers for Spain, Florida is testing a higher percentage of the population per day now than Spain did at the peak. Florida is likely finding a higher percentage of actual cases now than Spain did at their peak.

BTW, why is Spain's drastic recent increase not a concern or a sign that the lockdowns didn't work as long term solution? Also, Sweden didn't lock down at all or implement mask requirements (at least as of a few weeks ago for masks) and their daily death number has continued to drop since the peak. Their daily cases also have dropped since a "spike" that lasted most of June.
STOP WITH THE SWEDEN COMPARISON. They did have measures in place. They limited capacity for restaurants, which you are against, people stayed home when sick and most worked from home. Its funny how none of you bring that up.
 

Heppenheimer

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Its why many are saying more should be done to slow the spread. Maybe you have to start fining people for not following social distancing. Here it's almost $900 for not complying. People are listening. Masks are mandatory now. Its working here now that almost everything is open minus theme parks, movie theaters and casinos.
Are you from Canada? That sounds like what I've heard Canada is doing.
 

legwand77

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It's comical, and sad, to see the same person post "US had the lowest total of deaths for the day" a few weeks ago and then now "well, let's wait and look at when the deaths occured".............

No, sorry still I am saying the same thing as before. I have been saying look when the deaths occurred all along for weeks now. There are data dumps going on. Right now the peak Florida date of death was back two weeks ago at 104, that day will probably rise a bit maybe to 110-115 but not much more as most cases are filled within the past few weeks.

The case trend (guess that is not important anymore ;) ) still continues to follow the past few weeks stable if not going down. Hospitalizations are staying steady even with "record" cases. Orange County is still trending down with 8.2% positivity.
 

Parker in NYC

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Speaking of stats, I have heard this from two sources, it allegedly happened on the west coast of Florida.
A person signs up for the free COVID test. They must register providing information including an email address where to email the test results. The person has registered, but the wait to get tested is too long and leaves without getting tested. Some time later the person gets an email saying they tested positive for COVID, yet they were never tested.

Bus drivers? I've never actually used this lame response so humor me.
 

kong1802

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No, sorry still I am saying the same thing as before. I have been saying look when the deaths occurred all along for weeks now. There are data dumps going on. Right now the peak Florida date of death was back two weeks ago at 104, that day will probably rise a bit maybe to 110-115 but not much more as most cases are filled within the past few weeks.

The case trend (guess that is not important anymore ;) ) still continues to follow the past few weeks stable if not going down. Hospitalizations are staying steady even with "record" cases. Orange County is still trending down with 8.2% positivity.

You know I’m referring to the “US only had 302 deaths today, lowest since March” posts...

Just funny the “wait and see when deaths occurred” didn’t make it in that post....
 

DisneyCane

Well-Known Member
STOP WITH THE SWEDEN COMPARISON. They did have measures in place. They limited capacity for restaurants, which you are against, people stayed home when sick and most worked from home. Its funny how none of you bring that up.
Since when am I against limited capacity for restaurants? Are there not a huge number of people working from home in Florida/the US? Has the guidance since March not been to stay at home if you are sick? Are workplaces not screening people for symptoms? I haven't seen anybody that appeared sick working anywhere for months.

There, I brought it up. The poster I replied to is suggesting that strict full lockdowns are the right thing to do and would have "smashed" the virus if they were done in Florida. I brought up Sweden because they didn't do that.

I have said since the beginning that all businesses should be allowed to operate as long as they can implement social distancing and sanitary guidelines.
 

Jrb1979

Well-Known Member
Are you from Canada? That sounds like what I've heard Canada is doing.
Yes I am and it's working very well here. I am trying to figure out why many keep saying it can't work in Florida. Businesses are open but they go after the people who aren't following the rules. They have been fining people too for not complying. Reminders don't work.
 

Jrb1979

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Its funny cause in Erie they have people going to the low income areas handing out masks and talking to the people and making them informed. Yet another thing that can be done to help slow the spread.

I have to ask @legwand77 @DisneyCane @LUVMCO tell me why making masks mandatory, fining people and businesses who don't comply with social distancing and going into low income neighborhoods and handing out masks won't work.
 
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Parker in NYC

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Yes I am and it's working very well here. I am trying to figure out why many keep saying it can't work in Florida. Businesses are open but they go after the people who aren't following the rules. They have been fining people too for not complying. Reminders don't work.

Again, I can't speak for Canadians (other than my dad) but when a company has to play reminders every few minutes and send employees walking about dangling mask-rule signs all day, I'd say Americans aren't the best at playing along. I thought that maybe Disney was doing it to cover their rear ends -- which they are, no doubt -- but also because people just don't care. The less confrontation they can make for their cast members, the better. And it's truly SAD! to me. Truly.
 

Parker in NYC

Well-Known Member
Its funny cause in Erie they have people going to the low income areas handing out masks and talking to the people and making them informed. Yet another thing that can be done to help slow the spread.

I have to ask @legwand77 @DisneyCane @LUVMCO tell me why making masks mandatory, fining people and businesses who don't comply with social distancing and going into low income neighborhoods and handing out masks won't work.

 

legwand77

Well-Known Member
You know I’m referring to the “US only had 302 deaths today, lowest since March” posts...

Just funny the “wait and see when deaths occurred” didn’t make it in that post....
Well that is still and was a fact at the time

I guess I should have to add that to my tagline "wait and see when deaths occurred". Because i did not include that in all my posts?
 

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