Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?

[TeriofTerror]

Reminds me of some airline companies obesity policy. If one's body cannot fit in the seat, the customer is charged for two seats.

I wish more did this. I paid for my seat, so why should I have to give half of it to the person next to me just because they can't fit into theirs? I don't want to be mean, but come on.

 

[October82]

We fail at number one with an obesity rate at 40%.

We fail at a lot of things.

 

[Miss Bella]

We fail at a lot of things.

Speak for yourself.

 

[rle4lunch]

Reminds me of some airline companies obesity policy. If one's body cannot fit in the seat, the customer is charged for two seats.

As someone that works in this arena, do you know why they do that? It's because each seat/passenger(souls on board) is rated at 200lbs/person. This is how they calculate the proper weight and balance of the plane in order to set the right takeoff and landing weights and that they know they'll be able to take off without stalling out. The weight distribution on a larger plane is not as critical as smaller ones, but the TOTAL weight of the plane (to include fuel and baggage) is still critically important. Further, the other reason planes (pre-covid) are always overbooked is that the profit margin, even on a completely full flight is razor thin. Back in the mid 2000's when oil prices spiked, some carriers were only profiting about $100 per flight (full flight). That's when you saw us all getting bag fees as well, to offset the losses they were taking across the industry.

If someone is 300 lbs, they should be charged a surcharge on the extra weight.

Ever seen the result of a load shift on an aircraft? woof. Granted this isn't going to happen on a passenger flight, but outlines how important having your weights right at takeoff...

 

[Miss Bella]

As someone that works in this arena, do you know why they do that? It's because each seat/passenger(souls on board) is rated at 200lbs/person. This is how they calculate the proper weight and balance of the plane in order to set the right takeoff and landing weights and that they know they'll be able to take off. The weight distribution on a larger plane is not as critical as smaller ones, but the TOTAL weight of the plane (to include fuel and baggage) is still critically important. Further, the other reason planes (pre-covid) are always overbooked is that the profit margin, even on a completely full flight is razor thin. Back in the mid 2000's when oil prices spiked, some carries were only profiting about $100 per flight (full flight). That's when you saw us all getting bag fees as well, to offset the losses they were taking across the industry.

If someone is 300 lbs, they should be charged a surcharge on the extra weight.

Ever seen the result of a load shift on an aircraft? woof. Granted this isn't going to happen on a passenger flight, but outlines how important having your weights right at takeoff...

Interesting. Back in April and May was their issues with the planes flying with only a handful of passengers.

 

[October82]

Speak for yourself.

You too, friend.

 

[Touchdown]

You're saying that Medicare/insurance payouts don't exist? A majority of covid patients have insurance and/or Medicare. It's no secret nor conspiracy that the payouts are higher with covid.

Hospitals get paid a one time amount for a diagnosis. It doesn’t matter if you stay 2 days or 14 it’s always the same amount. Usually the costs of taking care of a medical patients (staff costs, materials, etc) are more then that payment.

Surgeries on the other hand...

 

[rle4lunch]

Interesting. Back in April and May was their issues with the planes flying with only a handful of passengers.

It works both ways. Especially when it comes to them having to dump fuel if they didn't expend enough on a route. More money down the drain (or out the tail vent tank as it were). Very hard to adjust fuel burn when dealing with a handful of people flying. But in the airlines concern, it just isn't good business. Problem is with planes, the longer they sit, the more problems (maintenance) that will pop up. They gotta keep them flying for a multitude of reasons, including phase maintenance induction times and overhaul scheduling. There's a master flight hour brain that's used to build a 3 year plan for an aircraft and it's long term maintenance actions, which is mostly driven on how many flight hours between inspections. Some are calendar day, but most dynamic components are on hours. Don't fly a plane for 2 months and you can throw off just that one planes inspection schedule by 6 months to a year, or could down it permanently until it's able to get its maintenance complete.

 

[Miss Bella]

It works both ways. Especially when it comes to them having to dump fuel if they didn't expend enough on a route. More money down the drain (or out the tail vent tank as it were). Very hard to adjust fuel burn when dealing with a handful of people flying. But in the airlines concern, it just isn't good business. Problem is with planes, the longer they sit, the more problems (maintenance) that will pop up. They gotta keep them flying for a multitude of reasons, including phase maintenance induction times and overhaul scheduling. There's a master flight hour brain that's used to build a 3 year plan for an aircraft and it's long term maintenance actions, which is mostly driven on how many flight hours between inspections. Some are calendar day, but most dynamic components are on an hours. Don't fly a plane for 2 months and you can throw off just that one planes inspection schedule by 6 months to a year, or could down it permanently until it's able to get its maintenance complete.

Thanks. I live close to a airline graveyard. It’s very full right now. I know airlines are retiring a lot of planes.

 

[legwand77]

We fail at number one with an obesity rate at 40%.

and it appears one of the reasons the US is having so much trouble with Covid as opposed to other countries and lockdowns were not a factor, study published yesterday

The findings of this country level analysis on COVID-19 related health outcomes suggest that low levels of national preparedness, scale of testing, as well as population characteristics such as obesity, advanced age and higher per capita GDP are associated with increased national case load and mortality.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30208-X/fulltext

 

[Miss Bella]

and it appears one of the reasons the US is having so much trouble with Covid as opposed to other countries and lockdowns were not a factor, study published yesterday

The findings of this country level analysis on COVID-19 related health outcomes suggest that low levels of national preparedness, scale of testing, as well as population characteristics such as obesity, advanced age and higher per capita GDP are associated with increased national case load and mortality.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30208-X/fulltext

That’s a correlation we’ve all noticed.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

You lost me after the first sentence.

Who or what do you think created the economy? Or do you believe that it existed independently for an indeterminate period of time and then humans evolved to play their roles within it?

 

[mwf5555]

No one is making them work there. Just devils advocate.

We fail at number one with an obesity rate at 40%.

High Fructose Corn Syrup

 

[legwand77]

High Fructose Corn Syrup

The Kitchen Sink at Beaches and Cream or Mac n Cheese hot dog at Casey's corner

 

[Miss Bella]

Who or what do you think created the economy? Or do you believe that it existed independently for an indeterminate period of time and then humans evolved to play their roles within it?

I’m not sure I understand your question. There’s always been illness and death.

 

[legwand77]

I am glad some State/County Dashboards are beginning to note that the dashboard deaths are not all Covid deaths but deaths with Covid too and are only reporting date of death, and not when the death is entered into the system. Much better way to display the data. Florida should do the same. otherwise you get people reporting that 140 people died of corona yesterday.

COVID-19 Cases and Deaths - Emergency Operations Center - County of Santa Clara

www.sccgov.org

As an example yesterday AZ reported 134 deaths, 77 of those deaths were from the previous weeks/months

 

[chrisvee]

Who or what do you think created the economy? Or do you believe that it existed independently for an indeterminate period of time and then humans evolved to play their roles within it?

the economy c‘est moi

I love when people talk about it as if it’s something independent of the people

 

[Miss Bella]

the economy c‘est moi

I love when people talk about it as if it’s something independent of the people

I’m still confused. Death and illness have always been here. Someone dies every 12 seconds in this country. 99% of the population does not have Covid.

 

[giantgolfer]

Remember when this thread was a discussion about whether WDW would close again?

Those were the days....

 

[legwand77]

Well I guess we know indicators are looking good when people start debates about the creation of economy.