Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?

[Miss Bella]

All of the hospitals in the city had superior heart centers than the rural hospital they were taken to. The issue was lack of availability at the time. Recall that hospitals have been converting beds to increase their ICU capacity. It's one of those things that the posters of the "available bed" stats are ignoring. They have increased ICU beds for Covid-19 patients by DECREASING beds for other uses, such as heart trauma beds. On paper the hospital has room for an emergency. Unfortunately this patient had "the wrong illness" and couldn't be accommodated, an issue that wouldn't have existed with lower numbers of Covid-19 in the region.

If your fiend would have had a heart attack she would have been stabilized and transferred to a hospital with a higher level care. This occurs all the time. You are using an anecdotal case to prove your point which is ridiculous. Obviously the EMTs were correct in their assessment.

 

[Miss Bella]

What would anyone have to believe if they thought Florida or many other states had a hard core lockdown. It’s blows my mind. Ask some countries what a hard core lock down is. In the states I think people think when the bars are closed is hard core.

What’s the unemployment rate in those states?

 

[havoc315]

It also didnt help you had people out en mass protesting. But the experts will claim those didn't hurt the numbers because it's against the agenda

Nonsense. I agree there was some hypocrisy from some liberal commentators and a handful of purported public health experts, but the vast majority of experts agreed that the protests could contribute to significant viral spread.

The studies suggest the protests were not a major contributor to viral spread. Though studies have suggested it may simply be that increased spread among protestors may have been countered by those who decreased their activity, due to the protests.

 

[havoc315]

What would anyone have to believe if they thought Florida or many other states had a hard core lockdown. It’s blows my mind. Ask some countries what a hard core lock down is. In the states I think people think when the bars are closed is hard core.

Some states were harder/softer than others, but no state was truly having a true hard core lock down. The definition of essential services was kept very broad, for the most part, people weren't prohibited from leaving their homes. Infected individuals were told to self-isolate at home, not dragged away to solitary isolation dorms.

 

[rle4lunch]

If true its disgusting and makes me angry these parks are doing this to their employees. No wonder cases are out of control. Here when a business has an employee that it positive they shut down for a day and do cleaning. They also let people who have been to said business they may have come in contact with a person with Covid-19. For some reason none of the parks have any interest in doing that.

No one is making them work there. Just devils advocate.

 

[rle4lunch]

As an aside, some of y'all got a LOT of time on your hands. Just think about all the words you've expended on a meaningless Disney fan site. You could be putting all this knowledge to a novel or three...

 

[legwand77]

As an aside, some of y'all got a LOT of time on your hands. Just think about all the words you've expended on a meaningless Disney fan site. You could be putting all this knowledge to a novel or three...

well we cant go to bars

 

[Lilofan]

What’s the unemployment rate in those states?

Several weeks ago Central Florida counties had high unemployment rates. Orange had 23% and Osceola had 32%. The state of Georgia takes the prize with 43% of residents applying for unemployment a few months ago.

 

[Miss Bella]

Several weeks ago Central Florida counties had high unemployment rates. Orange had 23% and Osceola had 32%. The state of Georgia takes the prize with 43% of residents applying for unemployment a few months ago.

Yikes. The last time I checked ours it was 8.8%. The new numbers come out the end of the month. I’m expecting it to go lower.

 

[legwand77]

Yikes. The last time I checked ours it was 8.8%. The new numbers come out the end of the month. I’m expecting it to go lower.

All states should be lower in August, as the $600/week fed kicker expires this week.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

What’s the unemployment rate in those states?

Would have to really do some research, not sure of exact numbers but good diversion again. The conversation was about hospitalizations, rate of increase with the virus, ICU..etc. nothing to do with unemployment. That’s another conversation not for this thread. You seem to change the subject that’s being talked about quite frequently. In fact I said the same thing maybe 2 days ago when you changed someone’s post to something that was not even mentioned . Not sure what that is about.

 

[SoCalMort]

What’s the unemployment rate in those states?

Posted without comment:

Current Unemployment Rates for States and Historical Highs/Lows

www.bls.gov

 

[Miss Bella]

Would have to really do some research, not sure of exact numbers but good diversion again. The conversation was about hospitalizations, rate of increase with the virus, ICU..etc. nothing to do with unemployment. That’s another conversation not for this thread. You seem to change the subject that’s being talked about quite frequently. In fact I said the same thing maybe 2 days ago when you changed someone’s post to something that was not even mentioned . Not sure what that is about.

The economy, lockdowns and Covid are all related. If you can’t see that...

 

[Miss Bella]

All states should be lower in August, as the $600/week fed kicker expires this week.

According to pp Covid and the economy are not interrelated. Who knew.?

 

[legwand77]

Everyone is mentioning lag in deaths and hospitalizations, two more weeks etc., it also goes both ways. Since test results are laggging by some accounts 4-5 days and with case numbers now on the decline, Florida might be much closer to 5% or less positivity currently than the data actually shows, maybe even lower. It will be interesting to see if that plays out.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

The economy, lockdowns and Covid are all related. If you can’t see that...

Sure .. throw schools.. amusement parks.. traffic.. anything you want. Again, that’s not what the conversation was about. If you can’t see that...

 

[SoCalMort]

The economy, lockdowns and Covid are all related. If you can’t see that...

The economy is something we created, yes? In other words, it is not a force nature or or something that arises on its own. While I can think of many social/tribal/what-have-you aspects we share with other life on the planet, I can't think of other species that have an 'economy' as we commonly use the term.

If so, then isn't the foundation for a healthy economy healthy people?

 

[havoc315]

The economy, lockdowns and Covid are all related. If you can’t see that...

Of course they are.
But here is the thing: If you don't do the lockdowns the right away, if you don't take the right preventative measures as quickly as possible, you cause much much more long term economic damage.

Which is better..... 20% unemployment for 2 months, followed by a year of 5% unemployment..
Or an entire year of 10-15% unemployment? (numbers for demonstration only)

We will never have full employment as long as the virus is exploding. Even if there were absolutely no government restrictions -- lots of people wouldn't feel safe to go eat, travel, visit Disney World. Lots of people home sick, instead of being productive members of the economy.

Yes -- they are all interrelated. But not in the way some people are suggesting -- Fighting the virus doesn't hurt the economy. Fighting the virus is how you promote the economy in the long term.

 

[Dizneykid]

As an aside, some of y'all got a LOT of time on your hands. Just think about all the words you've expended on a meaningless Disney fan site. You could be putting all this knowledge to a novel or three...

Okay that was a great comment. Touche

 

[Miss Bella]

The economy is something we created, yes? In other words, it is not a force nature or or something that arises on its own. While I can think of many social/tribal/what-have-you aspects we share with other life on the planet, I can't think of other species that have an 'economy' as we commonly use the term.

If so, then isn't the foundation for a healthy economy healthy people?

You lost me after the first sentence.