Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?

[techgeek]

There is no way to positively spin today's news. There is no upside. That such a headline is even possible represents a massive failure in the management of this pandemic on multiple levels.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Wait until next month when we're seeing 1k deaths a day consistently, football being cancelled, and schools not being able to reopen.

I cannot even fathom what the spin will be then.

"this is normal. " "We all knew this would happen." "you guys are overreacting over something we saw coming"

 

[oceanbreeze77]

There is no way to positively spin today's news. There is no upside. That such a headline is even possible represents a massive failure in the management of this pandemic on multiple levels.

I say the positivity rate coming down is somewhat good news, as it provides a VERY small sliver of hope, but its still ridiculously high.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

2020 in a nutshell

 

[legwand77]

The percentage of positive tests in Florida is not going down.

Daily Testing Trends in Florida - Johns Hopkins

See daily changes in tests performed and positivity rates in Florida

coronavirus.jhu.edu

I am referencing the source data from the Florida DOH

 

[oceanbreeze77]

also

 

[marni1971]

True about the South Korea stat, but that is not the point. I was just noting the positivity rate has improved over the past week and is trending down that is good news. Even bettter to see that testing has increased dramatically.

Please please PLEASE come back in a few months and be able to truthfully say you were right.

I really hope you can. Honestly.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

@marni1971 now that the parks are open, after the heat they got yesterday, and the news getting worse, any intel on how Disney is feeling?

 

[schuelma]

Its going to become clear within a week or so (as Florida fatalities hit 100 a day consistently) that DeSantis can either shut things down again, including the theme parks, or just...ride it out with 800-1000 Florida citizens dying a week. With infections at this number its impossible to trace and isolate and with the whole state reopened its just going to keep spreading.

 

[marni1971]

@marni1971 now that the parks are open, after the heat they got yesterday, and the news getting worse, any intel on how Disney is feeling?

I would imagine nervous. As we all would be. As you know I’ve not been actively asking questions over the last few months.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Its going to become clear within a week or so (as Florida fatalities hit 100 a day consistently) that DeSantis can either shut things down again, including the theme parks, or just...ride it out with 800-1000 Florida citizens dying a week. With infections at this number its impossible to trace and isolate and with the whole state reopened its just going to keep spreading.

I'm afraid he's going to go with the second one.

(I'm afraid- emotion wise)

 

[legwand77]

Please please PLEASE come back in a few months and be able to truthfully say you were right.

I really hope you can. Honestly.

Nah, no need to if that happens, hopefully the news will shift at that point and the discussion will be moot, and the board will be back to the regular things. Here's hoping.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Disney World is trending again....not for good reasons...again

 

[Oskar]

Will they reclose? No idea. Should they reclose?

Yes.

Absolutely, unequivocally yes.

Shut it down.

 

[rabidstoat]

And also hospital capacity has also improved statewide and in Orange County.

That's great news for residents of Florida and Orange County, but "Come to Walt Disney World, we have lots of ICU beds in case you get infected!" is not a great marketing slogan for a theme park.

 

[DisneyCane]

Forgive us, but it's hard to keep up with this circular logic. Percentage is fully 50% based on number of tests.
Also, wasn't it like two weeks ago that yall were yelling that positive percentage was the end all be all and that we were idiots for being concerned about 5k cases?

Percentage is not 50%. Don't know where that's coming from.

None of these measures are safe. They mitigate risk but do not eliminate it. Getting more and more people interacting is more and more testing of the measures, more opportunities for failure.

Life isn't safe. This isn't the black plague or anything on the same planet as the Spanish flu in 1917/1918 as far as mortality rate. Life went on back then and it needs to go on now.

 

[chrisvee]

Dr Scott Gottlieb on FTN today. Says NY more like Italy (sharp up/down) but southern states more like Brazil (extended plateau). Says Google Mobility & OpenTable data for southern states starting to show behavior change and private modeling shows 2-3 weeks until peak.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

and Brazil is realllllyyy bad. Digging graves on the beach. THE BEACH!

my bad, its not the beach, but its another dirt area
This was back in may:

Photos of mass graves in Brazil show the stark toll of the coronavirus, as experts predict that it will surpass 125,000 deaths by August

Despite the growing number of coronavirus cases and deaths in Brazil, President Jair Bolsonaro has refused to impose a lockdown.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[joe80x86]

And also hospital capacity has also improved statewide and in Orange County.

Would love to see your data on this. People on the ground who work in the hospitals and news articles are saying otherwise. Less available ICU beds and more ERs on diversion due to capacity in the last week.

 

[joe80x86]

There were more positive cases in ONE DAY in Florida than South Korea's all-time cases. This isn't okay in any way, shape, or form and attempting to normalizing it is borderline negligent.


This is inherently incorrect - tens of thousands of people are STILL SICK with the disease 3 months later. And we STILL don't know to what extent the virus damages internal organs. The mortality rate is NOT the only number that counts with a disease that has so many severe symptoms.

That is the truly scary part. Even if you recover from the virus, you could still be facing long term health effects. There was a BBC article about patients who recovered who are now suffering paranoid delusion and hallucinations due to damaged brain tissue.