Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?

[Shouldigo12]

Leaving off the news of the record number of tests ever run/reported and positivity rate has continued to drop, and deaths dropped as well.

Coronavirus deaths tick up in Florida, Texas, California, Arizona as states grapple with growing outbreaks

"I think in the next week the pattern of increasing deaths is going to become clear," said Larry Levitt, executive vice president for health policy at the Kaiser Family Foundation.

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But please, keep telling us how the deaths are declining.

 

[lazyboy97o]

If they opened as if nothing happened, I would agree that would have been unwise or even reckless. But they didn't open as if nothing happened.

Wan't the POINT of all the theme parks spending tons of money on social distancing stickers, temperature scanners, acrylic barriers, hand sanitizer; adding capacity limits, mask regulations, re-configuring restaurants, enhanced sanitation procedures etc, etc to operate as safely as possible in a COVID world? To prevent the guests/cast from giving it to each other? The surge in FL is from places and people not following the guidelines and procedures, but the theme parks are.

So I don't understand the debate. Who cares what's going on outside of the properties in the context of if they should be open or not. The whole point of these guidelines and procedures is to prevent people who unknowingly have it from coming in a spreading it around inside their bubbles. With the amount of money at stake, I can't see any of the parks not sticking to the guidelines the best they possibly can.

Just my two one-hundredths of a dollar.

None of these measures are safe. They mitigate risk but do not eliminate it. Getting more and more people interacting is more and more testing of the measures, more opportunities for failure.

 

[legwand77]

A significant of those were back dated, data dumps, around 3000 of the 6000 deaths reported nationwide last week happened before May 2. probably from probable Covid cases that were determined with the classification change earlier this month.

Deaths in Florida reported today were 45 half of yesterday. I don think we will see an slight increase but nothing matching the cases numbers rise.

 

[legwand77]

And also hospital capacity has also improved statewide and in Orange County.

 

[Notes from Neverland]

Deaths are only part of the story. Those pointing to the death rate exclusively ignore the long-term effects the virus can have on people of any age (lung damage, blood clots, brains damage, etc). This isn't just a case where if you survive you're totally out of the woods.

 

[legwand77]

its only gonna get worse in Florida unfortunately

What is your basis for that statement? That there were 15000 positives when 143000 tests were run?

 

[themarchhare]

its only gonna get worse in Florida unfortunately

Yeah, the fatality rate in a couple weeks is going to be nauseating...

 

[DCL]

The percentage of positive tests in Florida is not going down.

Daily Testing Trends in Florida - Johns Hopkins

See daily changes in tests performed and positivity rates in Florida

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[Jedi Stitch]

The mortality rate is what counts, otherwise, every cold would warrant a news flash. Right now, its at 4%

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Confirmed 3.29M +62,653

Recovered 970K

Deaths 137K

I can attest that my brother in law did not die of COVID-19, but the County ME was being pushed by the State and County to mark as a COVID-19 death. Especially toward the beginning. Since each COVID death was additional federal funding against it. I can not take any number's at face value. Will accept that one death is one to many when you put that number to a family, and that the COVID-19 death toll is high, but not as high as shown.

 

[themarchhare]

What is your basis for that statement? That there were 15000 positives when 143000 tests were run?

There were more positive cases in ONE DAY in Florida than South Korea's all-time cases. This isn't okay in any way, shape, or form and attempting to normalizing it is borderline negligent.

The mortality rate is what counts, otherwise, every cold would warrant a news flash. Right now, its at 4%

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Confirmed 3.29M +62,653

Recovered 970K

Deaths 137K

This is inherently incorrect - tens of thousands of people are STILL SICK with the disease 3 months later. And we STILL don't know to what extent the virus damages internal organs. The mortality rate is NOT the only number that counts with a disease that has so many severe symptoms.

 

[Jedi Stitch]

They're working against their own interests and extending the pandemic by pretending it's not real. They're killing people. Its unreal.

Want disney to stay open? Accept that covid is real and not getting better, then work together to help slow the spread.

I don't think everyone believes that the pandemic is not real. I have read too many facebook posts to say not everyone believes that. I very much believe that precaution's should be taken, but at what level, and what gear? Even Bill Nye has proven not all masks are equal. I agree even a flimsy mask is better than no mask, but wearing a non-proper mask is just a placebo. If I had the money to go to the parks right now, I would be masked up and I would want everyone else masked up. I would keep plenty of sani wipes and purel. I would prefer better mask guide lines, knowing that not all masks are equal, and everyone's face cover etiquette in the park can be unpredictable.

 

[Heppenheimer]

Dude, stop it.

There were more positive cases in ONE DAY in Florida than South Korea's all-time cases. This isn't okay in any way, shape, or form and attempting to normalizing it is borderline negligent.

To put things in perspective, South Korea, population 51.7 million, density 507 people/square km, 13, 417 total COVID-19 cases since the pandemic began, 45 new cases for the last day's data I could find (8 July).

Florida, population 21.5 million, density 121/square km. 255K total COVID-19 cases, 10,360 new cases logged yesterday.

Tell me what the "good news" is about Florida again?

 

[schuelma]

Deaths in Florida reported today were 45 half of yesterday. I don think we will see an slight increase but nothing matching the cases numbers rise.

Deaths are always low on Sundays. It was 29 last Sunday.

This downplaying is getting absolutely absurd.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

There were more positive cases in ONE DAY in Florida than South Korea's all-time cases. This isn't okay in any way, shape, or form and attempting to normalizing it is borderline negligent.

It’s bad in the states right now. You can hide your head in the sand and ignore it, or come out and say it’s bad and become a negative person on here. I prefer the truth, and right now, with possibly more lock downs coming, at least being reviewed and a few governors saying it’s the next step, we are in for a long haul.

 

[schuelma]

A quick month to month and a half of his posts, you will see how the point has changed. As one point becomes so obvious that a blind man can see it slowly moves to another.
It’s bad in the states right now. You can hide your head in the sane and ignore it, or come out and say it’s bad and become a negative person on here. I prefer the truth, and right now, with possibly more lock downs coming, at least being reviewed and a few governors saying it’s the next step, we are in for a long haul.

Wait until next month when we're seeing 1k deaths a day consistently, football being cancelled, and schools not being able to reopen.

I cannot even fathom what the spin will be then.

 

[themarchhare]

To put things in perspective, South Korea, population 51.7 million, density 507 people/square km, 13, 417 total COVID-19 cases since the pandemic began, 45 new cases for the last day's data I could find (8 July).

Florida, population 21.5 million, density 121/square km. 255K total COVID-19 cases, 10,360 new cases logged yesterday.

Tell me what the "good news" is about Florida again?

Tired of all of the WINNING!

 

[YodaMan]

If they opened as if nothing happened, I would agree that would have been unwise or even reckless. But they didn't open as if nothing happened.

Wan't the POINT of all the theme parks spending tons of money on social distancing stickers, temperature scanners, acrylic barriers, hand sanitizer; adding capacity limits, mask regulations, re-configuring restaurants, enhanced sanitation procedures etc, etc to operate as safely as possible in a COVID world? To prevent the guests/cast from giving it to each other? The surge in FL is from places and people not following the guidelines and procedures, but the theme parks are.

So I don't understand the debate. Who cares what's going on outside of the properties in the context of if they should be open or not. The whole point of these guidelines and procedures is to prevent people who unknowingly have it from coming in a spreading it around inside their bubbles. With the amount of money at stake, I can't see any of the parks not sticking to the guidelines the best they possibly can.

Just my two one-hundredths of a dollar.

Of course what’s going on outside of property matters. When you come to Disney and trip and break a bone and no hospital in Florida can accommodate you, let me know how you’re feeling.

 

[legwand77]

He can’t stop. I admire him for keeping to his agenda, which is wrong but anyone that won’t change their mind with proof as it hits you in the face, well a little credit is due I guess.
A quick month to month and a half of his posts, you will see how the point has changed. As one point becomes so obvious that a blind man can see it slowly moves to another.
It’s bad in the states right now. You can hide your head in the sane and ignore it, or come out and say it’s bad and become a negative person on here. I prefer the truth, and right now, with possibly more lock downs coming, at least being reviewed and a few governors saying it’s the next step, we are in for a long haul.

What is my agenda? How has my point changed?

 

[legwand77]

There were more positive cases in ONE DAY in Florida than South Korea's all-time cases. This isn't okay in any way, shape, or form and attempting to normalizing it is borderline negligent.


This is inherently incorrect - tens of thousands of people are STILL SICK with the disease 3 months later. And we STILL don't know to what extent the virus damages internal organs. The mortality rate is NOT the only number that counts with a disease that has so many severe symptoms.

True about the South Korea stat, but that is not the point. I was just noting the positivity rate has improved over the past week and is trending down that is good news. Even bettter to see that testing has increased dramatically.

 

[Touchdown]

True about the South Korea stat, but that is not the point. I was just noting the positivity rate has improved over the past week and is trending down that is good news. Even bettter to see that testing has increased dramatically.

It is good news, in the same way it’s good news when it’s announced a forest fire is 30% contained. It’s good news but great news. I’ll be happy when testing is >10% positivity, hospitalizations are down and new cases are less then 200 per day again. Now is time to batten down the hatches gird your loins and stop duck and cover.