Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?

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legwand77

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schuelma said:
You understand that deaths being backdated means the current sky high new case numbers means deaths are going to increase, probably substantially in the next month?
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Not neceessarily true at all, better treatments, and age of hospitalized are lower. The people who died in june got sick when he average age was much higher.
 
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legwand77

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schuelma said:
You're just making stuff up at this point. Deaths are trending up already, and all logic and reasoning tells us they will continue to increase.
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Show me where am I making stuff up, average age of the positive test has gone down and treatments are getting better. a good bit of the deaths are back dated it is all in the Florida DOH report
 
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havoc315

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legwand77 said:
Good news parks were able to open.

Also more good news a massive number of test run reported today and positivity is still trending down, 12.64% would like it to go more of course, lowest since two weeks ago. Hospitalization capacity in Florida has also stayed steady and actually improved a bit. Orange test positivity went up a bit to 12% but trend is still going down in Orange as well
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Any movement in a lower direction is good.
But, things like Disney really shouldn’t be open unless positivity is below 0.5%. 12% is 25 times too high.

Increased testing is great news. But unfortunately not useful when most results are a week delayed and there is no effective contact tracing.

This is the way it’s supposed to work, to have a functioning economy.
A state the size of Florida should be testing 200,000 per day — testing of employees, students, random testing of government workers.
With under 0.5% positivity — under 1,000 positives per day. Results within 24 hours. Those 1,000 people isolated. Contact tracing goes into effect — so of those 1,000 people... 5,000-10,000 additional contacts get self-isolated and tested.
This becomes daily... and it would eventually drive infection to virtually zero.

The countries that are successfully re-opening schools, like Germany, South Korea, Denmark — this was their formula for doing so.
You drive down infection extremely low— then you test, trace, isolate massively — which keeps the infections extremely low.
 
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schuelma

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legwand77 said:
Show me where am I making stuff up, average age of the positive test has gone down and treatments are getting better. a good bit of the deaths are back dated it is all in the Florida DOH report
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So just for the record, you think average deaths per week are going to start declining now?
 
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DisneyCane

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Touchdown said:
Less then 10% is the minimum acceptable range.
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No it isn't. 10% or lower is a target because, according to Dr. Birx, it indicates that you are testing enough to capture all cases.

If they went on a mission to test 200,000 people a day in Florida, the positive rate would be well below 10%.

The positive rate becomes a good indicator when the number of tests is relatively constant because decreases will indicate reduced disease prevalence in the community. The actual percentage means very little in the context of spread. It has to be combined with number of tests.
 
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oceanbreeze77

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it seems todays reporting is all oner the place.

You have this DOH report, but a ton of Florida news stations have different reporting. Some are reporting 200 hospitalizations and some over 400. The death toll also hasn't been clarified.The positivity rate is also unclear based on conflicting reports. Messy morning.
 

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