oceanbreeze77
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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion
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If that news article was right and there is a giant data error/conspiracy tell me this:
-Why are ICUs and hospitals filling up in Florida? I’m going to be very general here but, traditionally medical admissions generally peak in the winter and dip in the summer because flu/pneumonia’s are far more common in the winter; surgical admissions peak in the summer because people drive and party more in the summer (increasing trauma.) This summer, the trauma business is thankfully way down because most people are still staying home. There is no explanation other then a widespread epidemic to explain why hospitals are filling up. They weren’t a month ago and now they are suggesting Covid rates in Florida are sky rocketing.
-Does this data error extend to other states? The entire Sun Belt is experiencing a similar surge as Florida, there is no reason Florida should be an outlier compared to those other states. I’ll also point out that hospitals in those states are also filling up.
-If Florida and the sunbelt were experiencing similar %positive rates as states in the Midwest and Northeast, assuming that each state had a similar hospital bed to population ratio there should be stories about those hospitals being full up here too, which there isn’t. My state (Wisconsin) an entirely average Midwest state in most ways (and one that is mostly open) is currently operating hospitals at 79% capacity and only has 254 people hospitalized with Covid (69 ICU) and 164 people admitted with pending tests. We aren’t stressed, our new case levels had been climbing, until yesterday when the 7 day average decreased for the first time in 2 weeks.
Keep digging your head in the sand thinking Florida doesn’t have a Covid problem. %positive is not the only thing increasing in Florida every other metric imaginable is too (raw new case numbers, hospitalizations, ICU admissions and deaths.)
One other thing, if you get a Covid test in my area do you know how long it takes to get a result back? Average wait is less then 2 days, that’s why our total amount of people tested is always much lower on Sunday-Monday (tests done Saturday-Sunday.) If you Floridians are waiting 5-7 days at this point that is criminal.
-Why are ICUs and hospitals filling up in Florida? I’m going to be very general here but, traditionally medical admissions generally peak in the winter and dip in the summer because flu/pneumonia’s are far more common in the winter; surgical admissions peak in the summer because people drive and party more in the summer (increasing trauma.) This summer, the trauma business is thankfully way down because most people are still staying home. There is no explanation other then a widespread epidemic to explain why hospitals are filling up. They weren’t a month ago and now they are suggesting Covid rates in Florida are sky rocketing.
-Does this data error extend to other states? The entire Sun Belt is experiencing a similar surge as Florida, there is no reason Florida should be an outlier compared to those other states. I’ll also point out that hospitals in those states are also filling up.
-If Florida and the sunbelt were experiencing similar %positive rates as states in the Midwest and Northeast, assuming that each state had a similar hospital bed to population ratio there should be stories about those hospitals being full up here too, which there isn’t. My state (Wisconsin) an entirely average Midwest state in most ways (and one that is mostly open) is currently operating hospitals at 79% capacity and only has 254 people hospitalized with Covid (69 ICU) and 164 people admitted with pending tests. We aren’t stressed, our new case levels had been climbing, until yesterday when the 7 day average decreased for the first time in 2 weeks.
Keep digging your head in the sand thinking Florida doesn’t have a Covid problem. %positive is not the only thing increasing in Florida every other metric imaginable is too (raw new case numbers, hospitalizations, ICU admissions and deaths.)
One other thing, if you get a Covid test in my area do you know how long it takes to get a result back? Average wait is less then 2 days, that’s why our total amount of people tested is always much lower on Sunday-Monday (tests done Saturday-Sunday.) If you Floridians are waiting 5-7 days at this point that is criminal.
oceanbreeze77
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Color me shocked
oceanbreeze77
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kong1802
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Good news is, at least maybe its the start of a falling positivity rate?
oceanbreeze77
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hardly.
oceanbreeze77
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Why won't the positivity rate go down!?!?!?!?! 
Horizons '83
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Right on cue
oceanbreeze77
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I would say, yesterday was the anomaly.
kong1802
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Look, I'm trying over here, lol
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Testing goes up, positivity rate is slightly lower. Trend over the last few weeks for the most part. Still flat at the end of the day.
oceanbreeze77
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High flat
GoofGoof
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Based on the “new math” the positivity rate went negative today
You take the reported percent and subtract 15 for under reporting and data errors . A negative positivity rate must mean that some people who got the virus yesterday gave it back
kong1802
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Based on the “new math” the positivity rate went negative today
Sounds like you are a website away from being a journalist......
oceanbreeze77
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WOW!!! Youre brilliant!!!! why won't anyone listen to you!?!?!?!?!?!Based on the “new math” the positivity rate went negative today
Heppenheimer
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Day to day hospitalization numbers don't have as much relevance as weekly or monthly trends. For a variety of structural reasons, numbers almost always go up on weekends, then go down early in the work week as the back-log from the weekend gets discharged.
You’ve got that reversed my friend. Elective procedures occur in weekdays and are scheduled so that those people leave prior to the weekend. Clinics are closed (or have reduced hours on weekends) and people have a higher threshold to seek a doctor on a weekend (which cuts into their free time) then a weekday (excused work absence.) The busiest days in hospital census is Tues-Thur, the weekends are quieter.
Heppenheimer
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When I worked as a hospitalist, I always had my biggest census on the weekends because:
- I couldn't get lexiscans, echos or anything other than emergency ultrasound on the weekends, so I had to hold on to certain cases longer than I would have during the week.
- No social workers, so no rehab transfers even for the minority of local facilities that accepted during the weekends, or discharges for socially complicated patients.
- Last minute, Friday afternoon cases that would normally get an outpatient work-up end up in the ER.
-Friday afternoon ER granny dumps.
-Primary care clinics closed, so couldn't arrange the close follow-up some patients needed to avoid the dreaded re-admission penalty.
There were always more than enough of these to balance out the lack of elective surgery cases during the weekend. This hospital was also located in a rather economically depressed and extremely unhealthy community, so that may have skewed the numbers.
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