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raymusiccity

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We need The Commander & Jetstream meet n greets! :D

Lets bring back the astronauts, along with Mickey in his spacesuit !
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Donaldfan1934

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Originally the roof fins were coming down. Now it looks like they’re staying as you say.
Well, if they don’t plan on getting rid of them in the immediate future as currently appears to be the case, they’re going to awkwardly mask the connection they had to the support beams that are currently being removed.
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Hopefully, Imagineering can get the funds to take the roof fins down eventually, even if it’s several years down the road. The unfortunate thing about this current refresh is that it seems to be completely dependent whatever extra money they can find and not a formal budget of its own.
 

trainplane3

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Well, if they don’t plan on getting rid of them in the immediate future as currently appears to be the case, they’re going to awkwardly mask the connection they had to the support beams that are currently being removed.View attachment 443700View attachment 443701
Hopefully, Imagineering can get the funds to take the roof fins down eventually, even if it’s several years down the road. The unfortunate thing about this current refresh is that it seems to be completely dependent whatever extra money they can find and not a formal budget of its own.
I was about to say "they seal the hole like they did when they got rid of the Monsters Inc UFO" but I forgot about the awkward connection there. I'm hoping they painted them white just to make it more uniform until it's time to remove them.
Get rid of the roof fins.

Get rid of the yellow AE tower.

Bring back Star Jets.

Do it right.
I'm still wondering if it's supposed to turn blue in the future. That's one thing @marni1971 mentioned like 2 years ago that I haven't forgotten for some reason. It could work with a spire covered TL.
 

Animaniac93-98

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I'm still wondering if it's supposed to turn blue in the future. That's one thing @marni1971 mentioned like 2 years ago that I haven't forgotten for some reason. It could work with a spire covered TL.

That is the plan, but it's style and shape does not match the rest of the land. Like we've seen with the roof fins, just painting the '94 elements white or blue doesn't really make them blend with the rest of the land.

It's silly to put in 60-70% of the effort to bring back the original design, and then just stop there.
 

trainplane3

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That is the plan, but it's style and shape does not match the rest of the land. Like we've seen with the roof fins, just painting the '94 elements white or blue doesn't really make them blend with the rest of the land.

It's silly to put in 60-70% of the effort to bring back the original design, and then just stop there.
Oh I'm not disagreeing. I'm glad it's turning back into a nice TL but I really want them to do it right, none of this half-donkey'd stuff.

And 10000% on the Star Jets.
 

The Empress Lilly

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We have "new" supports by MiLF!
Before:
July
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October:
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After:
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And additional ones being worked on around the land!
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Now about gettings those under-track supports to be less...metal
Hey thank you for the pics! We're all dorks here who love this stuff.

The PeopleMover is really just a steel Meccano playset with some concrete cladding. It only looks like a brutalist concrete jungle edifice - of that briefly lived brave utopia of the late sixties, early seventies that was reviled for its dehumanising effect for decades afterwards and which we now would die for TL to look like again. :D

The metal track supports should be able to just get a cover at feasible cost. Any sticky plaster with a white coat of paint will do, methinks?

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PREMiERdrum

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Hey thank you for the pics! We're all dorks here who love this stuff.

The PeopleMover is really just a steel Meccano playset with some concrete cladding. It only looks like a brutalist concrete jungle edifice - of that briefly lived brave utopia of the late sixties, early seventies that was reviled for its dehumanising effect for decades afterwards and which we now would die for TL to look like again. :D

The metal track supports should be able to just get a cover at feasible cost. Any sticky plaster with a white coat of paint will do, methinks?

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Oh dear.

Nothing about Tomorrowland's original Googie-inspired design is anywhere close to Brutalist.
 

The Empress Lilly

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Oh dear.

Nothing about Tomorrowland's original Googie-inspired design is anywhere close to Brutalist.
Not really. Googie was over by the early to mid sixties. TL 71/75 is space age, mid century modern, brutalism with a human face, fantasy futurism, whatever one wishes to call it. Googie is more specific, more precise than just mid century modern. The 50s Prime Time sign is WDW's erm, 'prime' Googie example. DL TL had a lot of Googie influences.

Frivolous 50s Googie vs. the stern 70s Tomorrowland:


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PREMiERdrum

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Not really. Googie was over by the early to mid sixties. TL 71/75 is space age, mid century modern, brutalism with a human face, fantasy futurism, whatever one wishes to call it. Googie is more specific, more precise than just mid century modern. The 50s Prime Time sign is WDW's erm, 'prime' Googie example. DL TL had a lot of Googie influences.

Frivolous 50s Googie vs. the stern 70s Tomorrowland:

As we drift off topic...

Nothing in Tomorrowland represents the over-scaled, heavy concrete, geometric forces that embody Brutalism. Even the former entrance spires - despite their mass - have far too much of a soft taper and opposing organic curves to really fit into the brutalist style.

Tomorrowland's pre-1994 architecture is squarely Googie / space age modern, with supportive shapes conveying motion and planar surfaces avoiding harsh lines and 90-degree angles.

Tall and concrete =/= Brutalist.
 

britain

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I give you... Boston City Hall, AKA Brutalism!

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The difference between the 50's Googie architecture and the 70's space age architecture is found in the connective tissue. There's more organic smoothing out of the edges in the 70's forms. More whimsical knobbery in the 50's. But they are more akin to a single aesthetic that evolved over time than two competing aesthetics.
 
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PREMiERdrum

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I give you... Boston City Hall, AKA Brutalism!

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Thank you!

Brutalism - especially in America - became quite popular for civic architecture and power centers (business HQs)... with the strong, overpowering scale and fortress-like appearances representing the muscle and might of the tenants. TL's scale manages to stay quite human and organic, with ornamental architecture suggesting motion and agility.
 

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