DisneyDefenders
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Does anyone know when in 2020 the transition from Epcot Forever to HarmoniUS wil take place?
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EPCOT Epcot Forever to debut as interim show before full Reflections of Earth replacement
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Figments Friend
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Yes, it is a 'funeral' in some respects.
It was meant to convey the transition from the EPCOT Center we all knew and loved from the past to the 'whole new world' Epcot will become in the near future.
A 'love letter' to the Parks' legacy, but it fell short for some.
Think of it as just that, the transitional gap between eras.
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It was meant to convey the transition from the EPCOT Center we all knew and loved from the past to the 'whole new world' Epcot will become in the near future.
A 'love letter' to the Parks' legacy, but it fell short for some.
Think of it as just that, the transitional gap between eras.
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Epcot_Imagineer
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Just to put my two cents in here, but the reason Disney continually passes on drone technology is that it is highly dependent on weather conditions. Yes -- the firework shows are altered for inclement weather, but they are rarely outright cancelled. If a large portion of a Disney show were the drones it would have to be continually cancelled due to wind being anything higher than a light breeze, or any sort of chance of precipitation. Additionally, you would have to wait until every sort of pyrotechnic was out of the way during a drone performance. There is no way you could have drones flying around while fireworks are going off. The LED barge in RoE had none of these limiting factors.
gerarar
Premium Member
Idk, but the more and more videos that I watch of this show, the more it's growing on me.
The kites, especially the fire kites, really hit it for me.
"Flying high...flying highhhh..!"
The ending still seems off, but it's meh.
Interesting they got rid of the loud fizzle popping(?) fireworks in the finale (very end). They were there on debut night, but have been gone since.
The kites, especially the fire kites, really hit it for me.
"Flying high...flying highhhh..!"
The ending still seems off, but it's meh.
Interesting they got rid of the loud fizzle popping(?) fireworks in the finale (very end). They were there on debut night, but have been gone since.
trainplane3
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The videos don't do the kites justice at all. They are really great in person. I had a friend tell me how lame the kites looked on the live stream but I told them to see it in person. Like I said before they're something so simple (literally lights on kites) but very effective. Especially the fact we haven't see anything like this in a US park.
The fireworks change could've been left over shells they had to use.
brickbuilder711
Member
The salutes appeared to return last weekend.
Rich Brownn
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The certainly didn't have issues at Disney Springs/Downtown Disney when they did the drone Christmas show == 3 times a night
WDW Monorail
Well-Known Member
I heard that someone was disappointed about the use of the lasers in this show. This video shows how amazing the laser programming is throughout the show, especially the final 45 seconds.
Jones14
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We got over to see this one last night. Here’s some thoughts:
- Loved the use of One Little Spark to transition between each theme, and had no qualms with the kids choir.
- Really enjoyed the throwback music, although it lagged a little leading into Veggie Veggie Fruit Fruit.
- The kites are really nice, and help with the fact that the fireworks are pretty average by Disney standards; Having them accompany Soarin’ is very clever.
- Those lasers are awesome, probably the best use of lasers I’ve seen.
- The wheels really do fall off once A Whole New World starts. I get the connection of making EPCOT into a whole new world, but it feels weird to focus on a song from the one IP that isn’t getting smashed into the park over the next few years. If they had to throw an IP in I’d have much preferred to hear Guardians, Moana, Ratatouille, Mary Poppins, etc.
- Overall, the show is just fine (not bad, just fine) but we’ll probably catch it a few more times because EPCOT continues to be the most pleasant place to watch fireworks.
- Loved the use of One Little Spark to transition between each theme, and had no qualms with the kids choir.
- Really enjoyed the throwback music, although it lagged a little leading into Veggie Veggie Fruit Fruit.
- The kites are really nice, and help with the fact that the fireworks are pretty average by Disney standards; Having them accompany Soarin’ is very clever.
- Those lasers are awesome, probably the best use of lasers I’ve seen.
- The wheels really do fall off once A Whole New World starts. I get the connection of making EPCOT into a whole new world, but it feels weird to focus on a song from the one IP that isn’t getting smashed into the park over the next few years. If they had to throw an IP in I’d have much preferred to hear Guardians, Moana, Ratatouille, Mary Poppins, etc.
- Overall, the show is just fine (not bad, just fine) but we’ll probably catch it a few more times because EPCOT continues to be the most pleasant place to watch fireworks.
gerarar
Premium Member
I was able to find a stream from the show last night and the salutes in the finale finalé are indeed back!
Glad to see that Disney isn't already cutting back on the show haha..
gerarar
Premium Member
If anyone has noticed, the fire kites only have 4 kites per set now, rather then 5 when they first debuted.
I suspect this is due to wear and tear in which that many of them were not lighting up for the past week+. They probably took them off for repairs and such..
Even some of the ones currently in use are malfunctioning and broken-ish. I honestly think the impact of the kites "crashing" on the water (when they're done being used) contributes to this.
I attached last night's show, in which it starts off right at the fire kites segment, which shows the changes/adjustments:
I suspect this is due to wear and tear in which that many of them were not lighting up for the past week+. They probably took them off for repairs and such..
Even some of the ones currently in use are malfunctioning and broken-ish. I honestly think the impact of the kites "crashing" on the water (when they're done being used) contributes to this.
I attached last night's show, in which it starts off right at the fire kites segment, which shows the changes/adjustments:
trainplane3
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On debut night one of the kite sets already had a "dead" kite. I'm hoping they fix them even if it is a temporary show. No excuse for bad show.
Indeed.
trainplane3
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Even though it's going to be a short-lived show, are you going to do a video on it?
I’m not going to see it. Although I am considering using that big zoom lens I have.
trainplane3
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I'd volunteer to help hold the big zoom lens up but you have many others willing to help.
FullSailDan
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It doesn't deserve a video. Husband and I saw it last week and we both turned to each other midway and said "What the actual __?". It's legit the worst showing of a nighttime show I've seen at a theme park aside from some unique fireworks. The music is atrocious, if you aren't a die-hard Figment fan then its completely lost on you. But even if you are, the kidz bop rendition is still a knife to the jugular.
The kites are... just... I don't even know. They belong in rivers of light in the far back as depth. 4 of them spread out across the WS lagoon is like when someone tries to use 2 strands of Christmas lights for a 20 foot tree. Also.. they weren't that exciting? Like.. DO SOMETHING WITH THEM! Chase each other, intertwine, I don't know, ANYTHING! Oh and when like 20% of your LEDs are out after a few weeks... thats a problem. WS2811s bullets are cheap and easy to splice together, theres no reason they shouldn't all be functional before showtime.
And then it's all just... over. Like no message, no story, just stuff in the sky and then done, like fireworks at a baseball game.
I can't believe they stopped running illuminations while we wait for the real deal and replaced it with this.
DarkMetroid567
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I'm not going to read through a 71 page thread because lol, but does anyone know if there were permit-related reasons to Illuminations closing? It just seems very strange that Disney would make a temporary show before a planned show that started the day *of* Illuminations: ROE's 20th birthday.
SoFloMagic
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No inside knowledge on this, but it looked to me like they were expanding/connecting the concrete forms that will likely hold the big screen things. My guess is that the large illuminations barges (and especially the globe) would have gotten in the way of that work.
But someone with knowledge can give you a much better answer, I'm sure.
