News Epcot Forever to debut as interim show before full Reflections of Earth replacement

[SplashJacket]

I agree that it really is the execution. Luminous is of course an IP heavy show, but the selections to me feel tastefully chosen to support the theme of the show. In some instances they are even recontextualizing the songs. Harmonious just felt like a random greatest hits playlist, but in different languages, because Epcot.

The lack of screens/projectiojsin Luminious also helps.

In HEA, the projections, screens, and lyrics mean that even if you’ve never seen the movie or recognize the song’s melody, you the IP is being shown to you.

In Luminious, unless you recognize the specific melody, there’s no chance you’ll know it’s related to a Disney movie.

In Harmonious, the screens showed you the content/IP because the content/IP was the focus.

In Epcot Forever, sure, it doesn’t tell you “This is Aladdin,” but the unmodified lyrics just plopped from the movie into the show create a disjoint.

The song is telling a story from Aladdin, even if it’s tangentially related to the story Epcot Forever was trying to convey.

To me, the only relatively jarring song is “You Got a Friend in Me” but the rest fit perfectly.

 

[Tom Morrow]

The lack of screens/projectiojsin Luminious also helps.

In HEA, the projections, screens, and lyrics mean that even if you’ve never seen the movie or recognize the song’s melody, you the IP is being shown to you.

In Luminious, unless you recognize the specific melody, there’s no chance you’ll know it’s related to a Disney movie.

In Harmonious, the screens showed you the content/IP because the content/IP was the focus.

In Epcot Forever, sure, it doesn’t tell you “This is Aladdin,” but the unmodified lyrics just plopped from the movie into the show create a disjoint.

The song is telling a story from Aladdin, even if it’s tangentially related to the story Epcot Forever was trying to convey.

To me, the only relatively jarring song is “You Got a Friend in Me” but the rest fit perfectly.

I completely agree. You've Got a Friend in me is very out of place (in addition to overused at the parks) and I wish they would consider swapping it out.

 

[Squishy]

I completely agree. You've Got a Friend in me is very out of place (in addition to overused at the parks) and I wish they would consider swapping it out.

That's probably one of the only few upbeat parts of the show, show would get even more depressing if they remove it unless they swap it with a villain scene featuring Bob Chapek trying to blow up Epcot with flame throwers and intellectual property.

 

[Tom Morrow]

That's probably one of the only few upbeat parts of the show

Ehh. I dunno. The show is mostly upbeat. I think the segment about losing someone goes harder than people expect a Disney fireworks show to go, and that might be why people feel this way. I actually love that segment and think it was somewhat bold of them to include it.

There's also plenty of other happy songs they could have used. YGAFIM is jarringly out of place in addition to overused in the parks.

 

[Andrew25]

Ehh. I dunno. The show is mostly upbeat. I think the segment about losing someone goes harder than people expect a Disney fireworks show to go, and that might be why people feel this way. I actually love that segment and think it was somewhat bold of them to include it.

There's also plenty of other happy songs they could have used. YGAFIM is jarringly out of place in addition to overused in the parks.

Agree - the show is at the same pace as HEA... outside that one middle segment. Don't really understand the argument of the show feeling slow/depressing lol

If it was more upbeat people would be saying it's a party atmosphere that doesn't fit Epcot lol

 

[Epcot82Guy]

I do wish they would have had a "know yourself/learn what our own instrument can do" that leads into You've got a Friend. While Friend Like Me is visually very cool, it is the one that sticks out most. And, I do agree the upbeat portion there could be a bit fleshed out. Something like Almost There, Try Everything, On My Way, etc. (Go The Distance or How Far I'll Go also, though that's leaning into HEA territory a lot).

As a staunch I:ROE fan (still my favorite Disney Parks attraction of all time), Luminous does get a lot more right IMHO. And, it's nice to have something more reflective vs. "party".

 

[wbostic12]

I do wish they would have had a "know yourself/learn what our own instrument can do" that leads into You've got a Friend. While Friend Like Me is visually very cool, it is the one that sticks out most. And, I do agree the upbeat portion there could be a bit fleshed out. Something like Almost There, Try Everything, On My Way, etc. (Go The Distance or How Far I'll Go also, though that's leaning into HEA territory a lot).

As a staunch I:ROE fan (still my favorite Disney Parks attraction of all time), Luminous does get a lot more right IMHO. And, it's nice to have something more reflective vs. "party".

I agree that maybe a new song would be good, but Hercules and Moana have been done so much lately that I feel like another song could be good.
On the tone argument (and I know it’s been said before), people that say that shows should be only fun should also understand that mix magic has been running for 6 years at Disneyland.

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

I tune out when You've Got A Friend in Me plays because it stops being Luminious for a bit and into Disney IP. That song is perfect for HEA or Hollywood Studios not Epcot. I would think this segment should be about being a kid - teen years so if you see it based by Andy playing as a kid is the only way to glide through it. Do you want to build a snowman (being a child) , any other song that themes to being a kid-teen be the only replacement. I'm actually surprised now Circle of Life isn't in this but then again would that be too Animal Kingdom centric even if it fits life.

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

If it was more upbeat people would be saying it's a party atmosphere that doesn't fit Epcot lol

Thiss!! Definitely which in no doubt they were cautious then it would become Harmonious II without the Taco Barges.

The problem is not upbeat song(s) but it being Disney IP upbeat songs when it comes to an Epcot show.

Epcot Forever was more upbeat but the difference every most upbeat portion was from original attractions that represented EPCOT it's spirit and was nostalgically fitting for there uniquely!

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

Agree - the show is at the same pace as HEA... outside that one middle segment. Don't really understand the argument of the show feeling slow/depressing lol

If your watching this anywhere outside the parks especially on the docks around Crescent Lake people would start leaving assuming the show is over when that middle segment hits til they get to the Yaht or Beach Club entrance and BOOM!

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

In Epcot Forever, sure, it doesn’t tell you “This is Aladdin,” but the unmodified lyrics just plopped from the movie into the show create a disjoint.

The song is telling a story from Aladdin, even if it’s tangentially related to the story Epcot Forever was trying to convey.

A Whole New World as a song is telling about going sharing that there's a whole more new world out there in the world to explore.
Aladdin to Jasmine

For Epcot Forever they took it in Walt's passion at the time to share everyone of a whole new world place he has envision for Epcot his experimental prototpe community city of Tomorrow.
Walt to everyone

Having Walt narrate between this summons why they used it... in the beginning it plays only instrumental