EPCOT Remy's Ratatouille Adventure coming to Epcot

[Next Big Thing]

I’m talking about their immediate placement and interaction with their respective lands. They’re not part of a cohesive space, they’re something around back connected by a path. Sausalito’s entrance isn’t located behind the old Energy Pavilion (this might be the first marginally positive thing I’ve said about that project).

I actually like that Rat is tucked in the back with it's own courtyard.

 

[Bender123]

But kids love acrobatic mimes with non-stop whistles!!

If there is one thing kids love more than endless booze vendors and shopping, it's mimes. When I was a kid, I didn't want any rides or attractions in my theme park vacation experience...all I wanted was mimes with whistles.

I say this over and over on this forum, but it seems I need to again. We, as WDW fanatics, are in the very very small minority of guests. We can complain all we want, but if none of us ever showed up at WDW again, there would be another person lined up to take our reservation and fast pass. WDW is not a "resort" in the original sense anymore...Families aren't going there for a week to get a three day park pass, hit the golf course, catch a "Broadway show" at the Top of the World and then head out to the Village for some souvenirs before shipping back to home. These types of resorts are dead and buried...their corpses line every state in the nation. What WDW has managed to do is maintain a status as a "resort" by catering to what modern families are looking for. We may not like the IP, but the average WDW fan pays $10K for a trip to WDW and they want a Disney character based attraction, so management will give them one.

I don't like it, but I understand the business reason for it.

 

[FigmentFan82]

If there is one thing kids love more than endless booze vendors and shopping, it's mimes. When I was a kid, I didn't want any rides or attractions in my theme park vacation experience...all I wanted was mimes with whistles.

I say this over and over on this forum, but it seems I need to again. We, as WDW fanatics, are in the very very small minority of guests. We can complain all we want, but if none of us ever showed up at WDW again, there would be another person lined up to take our reservation and fast pass. WDW is not a "resort" in the original sense anymore...Families aren't going there for a week to get a three day park pass, hit the golf course, catch a "Broadway show" at the Top of the World and then head out to the Village for some souvenirs before shipping back to home. These types of resorts are dead and buried...their corpses line every state in the nation. What WDW has managed to do is maintain a status as a "resort" by catering to what modern families are looking for. We may not like the IP, but the average WDW fan pays $10K for a trip to WDW and they want a Disney character based attraction, so management will give them one.

I don't like it, but I understand the business reason for it.

It also should be said that you get out of your trip what you put into it. If your goal is to hit the attractions and meet characters, then they've got you covered. If you want to relax by the pool and eat some good food you can do that too. I think in WDW there is something for everyone, even if everyone doesn't like everything.

 

[Mike S]

If there is one thing kids love more than endless booze vendors and shopping, it's mimes. When I was a kid, I didn't want any rides or attractions in my theme park vacation experience...all I wanted was mimes with whistles.

I say this over and over on this forum, but it seems I need to again. We, as WDW fanatics, are in the very very small minority of guests. We can complain all we want, but if none of us ever showed up at WDW again, there would be another person lined up to take our reservation and fast pass. WDW is not a "resort" in the original sense anymore...Families aren't going there for a week to get a three day park pass, hit the golf course, catch a "Broadway show" at the Top of the World and then head out to the Village for some souvenirs before shipping back to home. These types of resorts are dead and buried...their corpses line every state in the nation. What WDW has managed to do is maintain a status as a "resort" by catering to what modern families are looking for. We may not like the IP, but the average WDW fan pays $10K for a trip to WDW and they want a Disney character based attraction, so management will give them one.

I don't like it, but I understand the business reason for it.

Who in the heck spends $10K on one trip?!?!?!

 

[Bender123]

Who in the heck spends $10K on one trip?!?!?!

Family of 5, airline, hotels (forced into either family suite/Moderate if we really hate ourselves/Airfare/Food/Drinks/Extras)...It adds up pretty quick.

For reference, a one week August stay in a family suite, with hopper tickets and dining plan is $8420.95 (currently). If you want to kick down to a Quick service meal plan, $7616.15. Either way, still need to get there, so lets go with Southwest for our flight...$250 each ticket for a total of $1250. We are at $8900-$9600 before taxes, at this point and we haven't even set foot in on property.

WDW is a really expensive trip with a family.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Who in the heck spends $10K on one trip?!?!?!

Easy to do, if you have a family of 6. For a 7-day trip:

Airfare - $2100 (edit: That can be a conservative $ amount these days)
Food - $3000 (3 meals a day, roughly $150/meal avg, no outside food or beverages)
7-day park hoppers - $3000

You're at $8k without a hotel room, a single souvenir, extra beverages/snacks during the day, or even a one-time ice cream treat for everyone. We can eat cheaper, because we'll rent a car, buy groceries at Public or Wally World, and keep them in our DVC room. But for a non-DVC family of 6, $10k can be in the rear view mirror quickly at WDW.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Who in the heck spends $10K on one trip?!?!?!

Well, if tix are like $2k and you stay at a deluxe, that’s another $3k. Maybe $1500 for food? Another $2k flights. Then there’s three Disney Ever Afters and a MNSSHP with the Cruella booze party. Minnie Van everywhere. Souvenirs. That’s more like $15k!

 

[Bender123]

Easy to do, if you have a family of 6. For a 7-day trip:

Airfare - $2100
Food - $3000 (3 meals a day, roughly $150/meal avg, no outside food or beverages)
7-day park hoppers - $3000

You're at $8k without a hotel room, a single souvenir, or even a one-time ice cream treat for everyone.

Hopper add on for a family of 5 is just shy of $500 on its own...Im constantly amazed by people not really grasping how insanely expensive a family trip is. We could squeeze into a five person room at CBR, but with twin 13s, 16 and the wife and I, its not exactly an enjoyable stay.

Obviously, it can be cheaper if you give up sleeping in a bed, don't do days in the parks, eat lite, etc...but I don't go on a vacation to make myself miserable.

 

[Mike S]

Family of 5, airline, hotels (forced into either family suite/Moderate if we really hate ourselves/Airfare/Food/Drinks/Extras)...It adds up pretty quick.

For reference, a one week August stay in a family suite, with hopper tickets and dining plan is $8420.95 (currently). If you want to kick down to a Quick service meal plan, $7616.15. Either way, still need to get there, so lets go with Southwest for our flight...$250 each ticket for a total of $1250. We are at $8900-$9600 before taxes, at this point and we haven't even set foot in on property.

WDW is a really expensive trip with a family.

Easy to do, if you have a family of 6. For a 7-day trip:

Airfare - $2100 (edit: That can be a conservative $ amount these days)
Food - $3000 (3 meals a day, roughly $150/meal avg, no outside food or beverages)
7-day park hoppers - $3000

You're at $8k without a hotel room, a single souvenir, extra beverages/snacks during the day, or even a one-time ice cream treat for everyone. We can eat cheaper, because we'll rent a car, buy groceries at Public or Wally World, and keep them in our DVC room. But for a non-DVC family of 6, $10k can be in the rear view mirror quickly at WDW.

Well, if tix are like $2k and you stay at a deluxe, that’s another $3k. Maybe $1500 for food? Another $2k flights. Then there’s three Disney Ever Afters and a MNSSHP with the Cruella booze party. Minnie Van everywhere. Souvenirs. That’s more like $15k!

Guess who’s not going to Disney with family (whenever I have one) until the kids have jobs and pay for themselves...

I don’t think I’ve hit that amount with all of my own trips yet, jeeeeeez.

 

[ChewbaccaYourMum]

Easy. Move to Florida

 

[Bender123]

Guess who’s not going to Disney with family until the kids have jobs and pay for themselves...

I don’t think I’ve hit that amount with all of my own trips yet, jeeeeeez.

Just for further reference, our last trip came to just under $10,400 all in. this was seven nights, eight park days, Dining plan, airfare, snacks, alcohol, shopping, photopass, etc...

That was three teens and two adults cramming into a CBR five person room.

 

[FigmentFan82]

Guess who’s not going to Disney with family (whenever I have one) until the kids have jobs and pay for themselves...

I don’t think I’ve hit that amount with all of my own trips yet, jeeeeeez.

Great for you if you are able to keep your WDW trip costs low, but it's pretty naive to not realize that WDW trips for families costs lots of $$$

 

[HauntedPirate]

Ok, diversion over. Let's get back to Ratatouille now.

Still hoping it opens early and we're able to ride next March.

 

[Mike S]

Just for further reference, our last trip came to just under $10,400 all in. this was seven nights, eight park days, Dining plan, airfare, snacks, alcohol, shopping, photopass, etc...

That was three teens and two adults cramming into a CBR five person room.

Y’all crazy. Been there so many times I’d never spend that much for one trip. Not worth it at all.

Great for you if you are able to keep your WDW trip costs low, but it's pretty naive to not realize that WDW trips for families costs lots of $$$

I didn't think it would be THAT much.

 

[Bender123]

Y’all crazy. Been there so many times I’d never spend that much for one trip. Not worth it at all.

I didn't think it would be THAT much.

If you really want bad, try doing a joint trip with other families...You get clipped for 20% automatic tip on every meal you eat as a group of 8 or more on everything (My brother also has a wife and three kids + our parents)...So you want to eat at a buffet that has literally no server? Great...cost per plate is like $50 a person (on meal plan, they figure the tip based on the per plate normal price). Suddenly...

A trip to Chef Mickey on the meal plan is $120, because you have to pay a tip for the kid who brought you one soda and took your plates away. Nothing against the staff...they work hard...but that is a harsh price to pay for what is essentially self service dining.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Guess who’s not going to Disney with family (whenever I have one) until the kids have jobs and pay for themselves...

I don’t think I’ve hit that amount with all of my own trips yet, jeeeeeez.

Don't you know that by the time you and your spouse have 3 kids, the two of you should be pulling in a six digit salary? Then $10K will be like nothing!!

 

[DznyRktekt]

Don't you know that by the time you and your spouse have 3 kids, the two of you should be pulling in a six digit salary? Then $10K will be like nothing!!

Yes indeed, but full time childcare for three children under the age of 6 will set you back $27k.

 

[Andrew C]

Yes indeed, but full time childcare for three children under the age of 6 will set you back $27k.

At least....

 

[marni1971]

Ok, diversion over. Let's get back to Ratatouille now.

Still hoping it opens early and we're able to ride next March.

Fly to Paris to guarantee it. You’ll have a ball too!

 

[HauntedPirate]

Fly to Paris to guarantee it. You’ll have a ball too!

I wouldn't mind visiting DLP again, but the wife did not come away with a positive feeling overall from the trip.