The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

Figgy1

Premium Member
What kind of annoys me about this reunion thing is that all who are invited are in one of the following groups:

1. The band
2. The popular kids
3. The smart kids (me)

If you weren't in those groups, forget you! Less than half of the class is invited in spite of many of them being on Facebook (some of my mutual friends have not been invited even though they went there). That's just...sad.
The organizers need to have a talk with my little friend:angelic: That's just wrong on so many levels:rolleyes::brb::cautious:
 

Goofyernmost

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But when did you Graduate ??? ;)
Intentional! Went with "without honors". Apparent bad joke. If not understood it was just useless. :p
I must have changed my hair at least 10 times in the first 5 year period.:cautious:
So you always were an overachiever, I take it? About 2 years after high school I started to lose my hair. I think we need to change the subject while I still am maintaining my cherub like demeanor.
 

Songbird76

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I am sure @Songbird76 can tell us the difference between a European and an American basic education. I for one have no idea. Here is an article about what schools are like in Japan. Very interesting.
https://web-japan.org/kidsweb/explore/schools/
It actually differs quite a bit by country. I know some countries have no kindergarten system and don't start school until 6 or 7. Here, they start on their 4th birthday, but it's not required until they are 5. But they do 2 years of kindergarten. The cutoff date is December 31st. So say, like my son's birthday is December 3rd. So he started on December 3rd, and that was considered 1 full year by the time school ended in July. But my daughter's birthday is in May, so she started in May, finished out that school year, but that didn't count toward her first year. When she started the next school year in the fall, that was her first year of kindergarten. They call that grade 1, and they go through 8 years, so grade 8 here is 6th grade in the US. Kindergarten is mostly play...they learn the sounds letters make, they learn colors, shapes, numbers up to 100, but don't learn to read, write, add, subtract until grade 3 (1st grade...6 years old) Then they spend a couple of years only doing the basics....reading, writing, basic math. Then they start adding subjects in grade 5 (3rd grade), like science and history and geography. Then in grade 7 (5th grade) they start learning English. There ARE schools who start with English already by at least grade 3, but ours wasn't one of those. At the end of grade 8 (6th grade), all kids are required to take an end exam, kind of like an elementary level ACT or SAT. Their score on that test (plus advice from their elementary school) will determine what type of school they can go to for secondary education.

It's divided by level, so you go to a school and all the kids at that school are at your level. It prevents teachers from having to teach to the average while some kids struggle, and some kids are bored. So there is practical education which is for kids who just aren't book learners. They start right off learning a trade. Then you have kids who can handle a bit of theoretical education, but are better with the practical side, that's VMBO-Basis....very basic education. Then the kids who are a kind of a mix....half theoretical, half practical = VMBO Kader. Then kids who are fine learning from books, but they are pretty average = VMBO GT. I believe all of those are 4 years....I know all the vmbo's are, but not sure about Practical. Then you get into the more advanced kids...HAVO...that's for your B average kids...they do well in a regular school setting, but they are not necessarily Univerity bound....they might be more community college kids, and that's 5 years of high school and then they go on to college. And then you have kids that are really easy learners, always get an A in every subject, like my daughter, and that's VWO. That's 6 years. It's basically an AP (advanced placement) high school. You CAN stream from one level to another once you finish a level by adding a year. So, if you start at VMBO GT, you can move on to HAVO when you finish your VMBO program, but then you do 2 years of HAVO instead of just one...or you go from Havo to VWO by adding 2 years. So you'd take 7 years to complete to VWO level instead of 6, or 6 years to complete Havo level instead of 5. And then you can do a more difficult college, too. You can not go to University with a VMBO or Havo diploma. You would have to move on to the next level of high school until you complete VWO in order to go to University, but you can get there....it just takes longer.

I know Germany starts high school a year earlier than we do here, because a friend of mine moved to Germany and her son started high school that year, and my daughter, who is older, was still finishing elementary school. And I know they also divide their high schools, but I don't think they have as many levels as we have here. Her son is going VWO there, but I'm not sure how many years he has to go and if that's different per level.

Personally, I really like the division into levels. You don't have the issues with it moving to fast for some and too slow for others. Everyone should be more or less the same level, and they get along better because they also have more in common with their classmates. The more serious students are with the others like them. DD's class has only 20 kids so they are all pretty close. Also something different over here is your class stays the same. You are with the same kids in every single class. The kids that you start bridge class (junior high) with are the kids the same 20 that will be in your senior year classes, and you won't have anyone from a different class in any of your classes. So there's no "he's in my chemistry class....I could ask him what the homework was". If he's in one of your classes, he's in ALL of your classes, if that makes sense. But I'm not sure how that works elsewhere in Europe. And there's no such thing as electives. At least not until at least 3rd year of high school...then you choose a focus and you can drop certain things. Like you can choose to focus on the arts or more on the sciences. If you want to be a doctor, you'll have to have more sciences, and should you want to do something with music later, you focus more on the arts. What you choose will affect your career, because if you choose not to take chemistry, then you won't be able to have a career in something that requires that. So like...if you want to be an astronaut, you'd better take physics and high level math courses, where as a doctor, biology is more important. Basically, they specialize a lot earlier here.
 

Goofyernmost

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Well, I know it was required at least by 1980 in Wyoming, because both my brother and I had to go to kindergarten. And you couldn't do first grade until you had done kindergarten. My mom kept my brother home for an extra year because she didn't feel like he was ready for it, so he was 6 before he went to kindergarten. He couldn't just start in 1st grade.
That is about the time that it became more then just a elective. My oldest was 6 in 1980... she went directly into first grade. My youngest was 4 in 1980 and did have to go to one, but, not an official in school setting, just an informal daycare like setting complete with diplomas. Vermont got into the game a little late. At the time it was primarily a rural state with a lot of family farms. A lot of them didn't think the even elementary schools were necessary for cleaning out cow barns. It was hard to get them to part with any money for edumacation.
 
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Songbird76

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Dang it. Got invited to my five year class reunion. They found me. :cautious:

Not that it's hard; all they would have had to do is type in my name on Facebook...
And the organizer and I have mutual friends, so...
You know you aren't obligated to go....make up an excuse of why you can't. I was playing the title role in an operetta here when my 10th rolled around and I just said I couldn't miss rehearsals for it. Then when the 20th rolled around, my kids didn't have vacation from school yet, so I couldn't travel. I'm almost certain no one missed me anyway. If you don't want to go, don't.
 

Goofyernmost

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I remember my kindergarten and first grade teachers. They both had very long straight hair. One had brown and one blonde. Either that or I am remembering the women from The Magic Garden show. :hilarious:
I'm not even sure that nuns had hair under the wimple. As a kid I always imagined them as bald. I didn't know about that part, but, I was sure that they never used the bathroom for anything other then to wash their hands. It's amazing how kids see the world.
 

Songbird76

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I really dislike how times have changed on birthdays. I have a summer bday, my brother has a very late summer bday, my sister’s bday is the last day of September.

If we were growing up in current times, at least 2 of us would have started a year later, and I’d be on the cusp.
I remember my sister being annoyed that she was still 17 when she went to college, and that she was definitely the last to drive.. but in the end it makes so much more sense than holding them back.

I hear so many people today say things like “Oh we waited a year because my son/daughter has a late bday.” As in- July.lol

I don’t know when that changed.
My brother's birthday was always right around when the new school year started...usually a day before or a day after. Never more than a few days, though. But my mom kept him home an extra year because she felt like he was too young.
My son barely made the cutoff, being a December baby. He's always been the youngest in his class until this year. There's one kid whose birthday is something like December 12th, and one on New Years Eve. MOST people choose to have their kids do one extra year of kindergarten if their birthday is so close to the cutoff....cutoff used to be October. We chose to let DS move on because he could already read and do basic math and he HATED the craft stuff that's so large a part of kindergarten. But I have several friends with kids who were born between September and December and all of them chose to have their kids do an extra kindergarten year.
 

Goofyernmost

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You know you aren't obligated to go....make up an excuse of why you can't. I was playing the title role in an operetta here when my 10th rolled around and I just said I couldn't miss rehearsals for it. Then when the 20th rolled around, my kids didn't have vacation from school yet, so I couldn't travel. I'm almost certain no one missed me anyway. If you don't want to go, don't.
No one has to make up an excuse... all that is necessary is I don't wanna! Or I'm busy watching TV.
 

StarWarsGirl

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The organizers need to have a talk with my little friend:angelic: That's just wrong on so many levels:rolleyes::brb::cautious:
This is the way my high school was. Either you were involved and therefore part of it, or you weren't, and you were shunned.

I was a little surprised that out of this group, I had been chosen, but then I remembered I was on the newspaper, on the morning announcements, and in the choir, plus is AP classes, so yup, that was enough. Plus I was fairly well-liked in high school; I just didn't care about being friends with most people. Or going to prom.

Plus, it's so glaringly obvious. My friend's boyfriend has a twin. His twin got invited. His brother, even though he is one Facebook, did not. It's just weird on so many levels.
 

StarWarsGirl

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You know you aren't obligated to go....make up an excuse of why you can't. I was playing the title role in an operetta here when my 10th rolled around and I just said I couldn't miss rehearsals for it. Then when the 20th rolled around, my kids didn't have vacation from school yet, so I couldn't travel. I'm almost certain no one missed me anyway. If you don't want to go, don't.
I hit maybe for now. I probably won't go; I'm just trying to think up a better excuse than, "I didn't care about seeing most of you people."
 

21stamps

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@MouseDreaming , T LOVED it!!!!!!

The “gym” is below a doctor’s office.. literally 1 room with a treadmill, agility boards, agility ladder, free weights.

T didn’t even get on the treadmill, much to my surprise and at first, dismay.
He did the entire FIFA 11+ warm up, BUT unlike in Soccer when I see him doing it wrong.. he had a 1 on 1 trainer to correct him.. the corrections were noticeable immediately.

After that he did the agility ladder..then push ups..had a hard time on the last few, the trainer did not count them unless T did them correctly., After the push ups the trainer said “You good, Lil Dude?” T gave an out of breath “Yes”.. the guy replied “Good. Now I’m going to destroy your core.” I let out a laugh as I watched T’s eyes almost pop out of his head. He did v-sits (first time ever) and then plank rolls.

After all of that they got up on a large wooden board with numbers in boxes, a high school athlete arrived by this time, and he got up on a board as well.. they had to jump in a sequence. T let out a loud sigh at one point when he kept making mistakes. The trainer said- “Tristan, I’m going to expose every weakness you have, and it’s going to hurt, and it’s going to be the hardest thing you’ve ever done. But you know what? I promise you that it will be the most rewarding thing you’ve ever done.”
I could see T try harder after that.

When it was over the trainer high fived him, and asked him if he wanted to come back.
T smiles and said “Yes coach. I’m going to crush it.”

He held up his hand to ‘hit the rock’ with T.. and then turned to me and said “your kid is going to have the best sleep of his life tonight.” 😂

We got to the car and T said “that was EPIC. When can I go back?”

So I guess we’re in. ❤️💪
 

Figgy1

Premium Member
I'm not even sure that nuns had hair under the wimple. As a kid I always imagined them as bald. I didn't know about that part, but, I was sure that they never used the bathroom for anything other then to wash their hands. It's amazing how kids see the world.
Isn't that what nuns wore in the middle ages? How old are you:cautious:
 

Figgy1

Premium Member
This is the way my high school was. Either you were involved and therefore part of it, or you weren't, and you were shunned.

I was a little surprised that out of this group, I had been chosen, but then I remembered I was on the newspaper, on the morning announcements, and in the choir, plus is AP classes, so yup, that was enough. Plus I was fairly well-liked in high school; I just didn't care about being friends with most people. Or going to prom.

Plus, it's so glaringly obvious. My friend's boyfriend has a twin. His twin got invited. His brother, even though he is one Facebook, did not. It's just weird on so many levels.
Who's running that farce of a reunion? Long talk with little friend;)
 

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