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BLACK PANTHER huge hit!

smile

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I will forever be fascinated by the Marvel contract that lets them do whatever they want at Disneyland, while at Disney World a giant star like Black Panther is Persona Non Grata.


makes perfect sense when you remember when that contract began and what the state of marvel was at the time - uni came up big for them...
twdc knew that full well going into purchase and said from the word go the contract would be honored; hasn't been touched since with a ten foot pole

obvious both companies have respected and continue to respect each others holdings - a messy legal squabble does neither any good

and yeah, from then to now not one word of the contract has changed to my knowledge... nothing new here
 

Kamikaze

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makes perfect sense when you remember when that contract began and what the state of marvel was at the time - uni came up big for them...

Marvel wasn't their first choice. They had nearly made a deal with DC to build the land as 'Gotham City' prior to talks with Marvel.

and yeah, from then to now not one word of the contract has changed to my knowledge... nothing new here

Yes and no. The wording has not changed, but the enforced terms have. Mainly that since Uni didn't build anything at Uni Studios Hollywood, the 'shrinkage' clause kicked in, which is what allows DLR to use Marvel properties.

Since I don't know what "expert" you are talking about I can't comment further.

I assume he's talking about Spirit.

Funny for him to ****talk an 'expert/insider' when he pretends to be one himself.
 

jt04

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Marvel wasn't their first choice. They had nearly made a deal with DC to build the land as 'Gotham City' prior to talks with Marvel.



Yes and no. The wording has not changed, but the enforced terms have. Mainly that since Uni didn't build anything at Uni Studios Hollywood, the 'shrinkage' clause kicked in, which is what allows DLR to use Marvel properties.



I assume he's talking about Spirit.

Funny for him to ****talk an 'expert/insider' when he pretends to be one himself.

I have always said I am not an insider nor am I connected to anyone at Disney even by Kevin Bacon degrees of separation.
 

EvilChameleon

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Marvel wasn't their first choice. They had nearly made a deal with DC to build the land as 'Gotham City' prior to talks with Marvel.



Yes and no. The wording has not changed, but the enforced terms have. Mainly that since Uni didn't build anything at Uni Studios Hollywood, the 'shrinkage' clause kicked in, which is what allows DLR to use Marvel properties.

How did you manage to quote something I've never posted?
 

smile

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Marvel wasn't their first choice. They had nearly made a deal with DC to build the land as 'Gotham City' prior to talks with Marvel.
Yes and no. The wording has not changed, but the enforced terms have. Mainly that since Uni didn't build anything at Uni Studios Hollywood, the 'shrinkage' clause kicked in, which is what allows DLR to use Marvel properties.

first - why does it say evilchameleon? - did you edit that? if so, why? if not, ???

second, yes - marvel wasn't the first choice, but marvel themselves needed it badly
... and the dc/six flags relationship was there too

... then marvel just so happened to explode in the subsequent years...

if i'm not mistaken, character usage is ok at dlr, but still no 'marvel' however
 

Dutch Inn '76

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I'd say it's not thinly veiled at all. It's explicitly political and the characters are motivated by world politics. That's a core theme of the entire film and extremely important.

I'm sure I'll enjoy the film, as I expect it to be political. I'm ready for it going in. I did NOT enjoy Happy Feet or that preachy Zootopia because they blindsided me with leftist propaganda. Most annoying...
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
first - why does it say evilchameleon? - did you edit that? if so, why? if not, ???

second, yes - marvel wasn't the first choice, but marvel themselves needed it badly
... and the dc/six flags relationship was there too

... then marvel just so happened to explode in the subsequent years...

if i'm not mistaken, character usage is ok at dlr, but still no 'marvel' however

The only thing they can't do in DLR is used the name "Marvel".
 

Frank the Tank

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It’s beneficial to Comcast. Why would they change it?

Agreed. There is absolutely zero economic and/or promotional incentive for Comcast to *ever* alter the existing contract. Zero. Zip. Nada. Universal gets to block its direct competitor from being able to create attractions in Orlando based on arguably the most valuable potential theme park IP anywhere (sans the very limited of handful of exceptions like Guardians of the Galaxy). That alone is worth more to Comcast than whatever Disney could possibly attempt to pay it regardless of how many Marvel rides are actually put into Universal Orlando. There's simply no reasonable basis for Comcast to ever give up those rights in the real world. If Comcast had purchased Lucasfilm instead of Disney but Disney had signed a similar perpetual theme park rights agreement to cover Star Wars characters, everyone would know full well that Comcast wouldn't be able to pry such rights from Disney's cold dead hands no matter how much money was offered. I'm not sure why anyone could ever expect Comcast to act any differently than they are now.

Frankly, Comcast is the last company to ever throw Disney a bone based on the "goodness of their hearts" (which is basically the only reason why Comcast would be insane enough to change a complete sweetheart deal). They aren't only competitors in the theme park space, but also direct competitors in Hollywood overall (see Comcast attempting to usurp Disney on the Fox deal) and on opposite sides of the negotiating table on their biggest revenue generators (cable systems for Comcast versus cable channel subscriber fees for Disney). These companies aren't doing any favors for each other whatsoever.
 

Sped2424

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I'm sure I'll enjoy the film, as I expect it to be political. I'm ready for it going in. I did NOT enjoy Happy Feet or that preachy Zootopia because they blindsided me with leftist propaganda. Most annoying...
I didn't know a film about penguins being nice and singing/dancing to each other and Animals learning to not judge each other based on their appearances and species was "leftist" propaganda.
 

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