FrankLapidus
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BLACK PANTHER huge hit!
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Sped2424
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They need to hire you for creative solutions over there.
joejccva71
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I challenge that to be honest. Show some numbers that Pandora hasn't drawn more crowds to the parks. It's a huge draw. Crowd calendars from all the major sites have spiked up 3-4 notches over what the norm is for different times in the year. It's one of the reasons why everyone is crying wolf over at Touring Plans. Crowd calendars are almost useless over there now. They're all wrong and skewed and it's due to Pandora. It affects every park, not just AK.
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Animaniac93-98
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Black Panter made more in its first 4 days of release than Justice League in its entire domestic run. Who would have guessed that a year ago?
danlb_2000
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This list include characters that just appear in artwork in the land which is not enough to make them part of the restricted characters. Black Panther is off limits because of his connection to Avengers, not because he is pictures somewhere.
ChrisFL
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I would like to also mention that Disney's great Marvel presence so far has been to re-brand existing rides, such as Tower of Terror in DL, making a new Iron Man ride using 1980's simulator technology in HKDL, converting their Buzz Lightyear to an Ant Man ride in HKDL and now making the Rock'n'Roller Coaster at DLP into an Iron Man ride (IIRC)
So they aren't exactly breaking a lot of new ground here with the properties they can use outside of WDW.
So they aren't exactly breaking a lot of new ground here with the properties they can use outside of WDW.
Kamikaze
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Anyone that saw 'Batman v Superman'.
Kamikaze
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No. Black Panther has been a member of the Avengers since the 60s. He's off limits in Florida.
jt04
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Unless Disney and Uni can negotiate a deal. They should try. I would be happy to mediate.
joejccva71
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This is where it gets confusing. If Marvel is now owned by Disney, why can't they make attractions anywhere they want? What's the "clause"?
Kamikaze
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You mentioned a loophole, not a deal. Which is it?
The contract spells it out. Its characters in use in IoA and members of those characters families. So because Hulk (and others obviously) is an Avenger, any Avenger is off limits for Disney to use. Same as Disney can't use Venom because he's a Spider-man character.
Guardians of the Galaxy were not a member of any related property until after the deal was made, because the Guardians team that most people know of (the MCU version) is not the old Guardians team.
The contract spells out the US 'east of the Mississippi' as the location for the contract to be valid, which is why DLR is a totally different animal.
This is the actual contract: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1262449/000119312510008732/dex1057.htm
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jt04
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We got clarification in this thread since I said that. It is very interesting and well worth the read.
FrankLapidus
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That they can't use characters that are a part of the "families" of characters already in use at IOA. So Black Panther is off the table and this thread is consequently redundant.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Its not confusing at all.
When you license your IP away to someone for 'exclusive use' - that means THEY have exclusive use of it.. even tho you own it.
Marvel in its darker days licensed out it's properties to be used by Universal and in doing so gave them exclusive rights to use them in theme parks.
Disney buying marvel didn't negate those ongoing contracts.
Gotcha.
EvilChameleon
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Theoretically, isn't Disneyland also East of the Mississippi, just the long way around? 
CJR
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I would love it if Universal used BP for a real attraction. That area of the park is begging for something new, beyond a refurb. There was an Avengers ride rumored for a bit, but it seems to have went nowhere. Hopefully BP's box office success will spark that interest again.
Cmdr_Crimson
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An easier explanation if anyone is a bit confused on the whole thing..https://www.insideuniversal.net/201...ct-what-rights-does-universal-and-disney-own/
Dutch Inn '76
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And THIS is how, in my humble opinion, Disney eventually gets the Avengers theme park rights. I don't think that it behooves Universal to continue to develop Avengers attractions at USO because doing that only promotes the intellectual property of their main rival. Black Panther, Thor, Cap'Murica, and Iron Man are now almost as much Disney as Snow White is - and in twenty years with another generation of viewers they WILL be. In time, Universal & Disney will negotiate an ending to this "East of the Mississippi" contract because it will benefit both parties.