Guardians of the Galaxy coming to Energy Pavilion at Epcot

[matt9112]

Disney hasn't really built any exciting thrill rides in quite awhile. They did a fantastic job with the Seven Dwarfs coaster (its only flaw is that its short) and it made me wanting more new thrill rides at WDW.

a flaw they could have fixed if they built the orginally planned version......

 

[matt9112]

my SC education is unaware of how you function, I suppose

i only ever learned my name well.....now even thats fuzzy

 

[matt9112]

Ah, yes, judging things before they're even completed. Yay for this board!

track record isnt giving Disney much favor....they haven't earned it....mermaid is the most glaring example of budget cookie cutter approach. Also i dont think we can argue too much how disney for whatever reason gete far less value for there dollar. it costs 20 dollars to do something that used to cost 5. Likely a compounding series of issues of managment,budget alocation,labor costs ect.

 

[Matt_Black]

track record isnt giving Disney much favor....they haven't earned it....mermaid is the most glaring example of budget cookie cutter approach. Also i dont think we can argue too much how disney for whatever reason gete far less value for there dollar. it costs 20 dollars to do something that used to cost 5. Likely a compounding series of issues of managment,budget alocation,labor costs ect.

That's not unique to Disney. Movie theaters, sporting events, and other things have seen prices balloon.

 

[matt9112]

Last I heard there's indecision between a radical upgrade or a completely new show.

i hope the former imagine what a modern HD globe could look like and cutting edge effects. maybe a scene change or two.

 

[matt9112]

Who rides Living With The Land for the animatronics? The main draw is the ride through the green house.

i enjoy it all (shruggs)

 

[Mike S]

That's not unique to Disney. Movie theaters, sporting events, and other things have seen prices balloon.

I think he's talking about what WDI spends to build things. Not what we pay to get in.

 

[wdisney9000]

As I noted above, plans change. WDW fans of all people should be aware of that. Let's judge the finished product once we actually have it.

How many times will it take for Disney to premier a new attraction that is lackluster in comparison to the timeless, awe inspiring attractions they once created, for people to stop the insanity of the "wait and see" approach? Are they churning out absolute crap? Of course not. But they arent blowing our socks off either.

All of us did the "wait and see" with FLE (phase 1), then TT 2.0, then Little Mermaid, 7DMT, all of the Frozen parties at HS, then FEA. We have "waited" patiently enough, yet we keep getting served mediocrity. But for someone reason, people continue to think that the next time, or the next attraction, will be different.

 

[lazyboy97o]

How many times will it take for Disney to premier a new attraction that is lackluster in comparison to the timeless, awe inspiring attractions they once created, for people to stop the insanity of the "wait and see" approach? Are they churning out absolute crap? Of course not. But they arent blowing our socks off either.

All of us did the "wait and see" with FLE (phase 1), then TT 2.0, then Little Mermaid, 7DMT, all of the Frozen parties at HS, then FEA. We have "waited" patiently enough, yet we keep getting served mediocrity. But for someone reason, people continue to think that the next time, or the next attraction, will be different.

Well, a lot of that schlock is praised...

 

[Fantasmicguy]

How many times will it take for Disney to premier a new attraction that is lackluster in comparison to the timeless, awe inspiring attractions they once created, for people to stop the insanity of the "wait and see" approach? Are they churning out absolute crap? Of course not. But they arent blowing our socks off either.

All of us did the "wait and see" with FLE (phase 1), then TT 2.0, then Little Mermaid, 7DMT, all of the Frozen parties at HS, then FEA. We have "waited" patiently enough, yet we keep getting served mediocrity. But for someone reason, people continue to think that the next time, or the next attraction, will be different.

So what should we do about it?

 

[SpaceMountain77]

So what should we do about it?

What truly needs to be done will likely not come to pass. Guests need to begin vacationing elsewhere in significant numbers. As awful as it may sound, Disney is selling a product. The quality of its product will not significantly change unless there is a change in the demand. When they build it, whatever that it happens to be, guests still come.

If guests are truly outraged over the Marvelification of Tower of Terror, then they should have stopped visiting Disney California Adventure. Guests have power. They simply need to send a message with their dollars. In this case, it is a matter of taking their vacation dollars elsewhere.

 

[NearTheEars]

How many times will it take for Disney to premier a new attraction that is lackluster in comparison to the timeless, awe inspiring attractions they once created, for people to stop the insanity of the "wait and see" approach? Are they churning out absolute crap? Of course not. But they arent blowing our socks off either.

All of us did the "wait and see" with FLE (phase 1), then TT 2.0, then Little Mermaid, 7DMT, all of the Frozen parties at HS, then FEA. We have "waited" patiently enough, yet we keep getting served mediocrity. But for someone reason, people continue to think that the next time, or the next attraction, will be different.

I think FEA is a good example of "wait and see" actually working pretty well.
I wasn't confident it was going to be any good, but it turned out to be pretty good IMO.

The IP and the Norway pavillion deserved better, but in a vacuum, it's a nice ride.

 

[RoysCabin]

What truly needs to be done will likely not come to pass. Guests need to begin vacationing elsewhere in significant numbers. As awful as it may sound, Disney is selling a product. The quality of its product will not significantly change unless there is a change in the demand. When they build it, whatever that it happens to be, guests still come.

If guests are truly outraged over the Marvelification of Tower of Terror, then they should have stopped visiting Disney California Adventure. Guests have power. They simply need to send a message with their dollars. In this case, it is a matter of taking their vacation dollars elsewhere.

Yeah, the only other thing to do before taking that step would be to vote with your feet within the parks (visit attractions you want to see succeed, bypass ones you feel go against what you wish to see happen), seek out surveys (though those are often worded in ways that don't serve a cause like that too well), or more importantly actually take the time to write out a letter to management stating your concerns, a polite one that emphasizes that you are a long time paying guest who wishes to continue being one, but feel great concern about the parks' creative directions.

However all of that, as you say, will not have anywhere near the impact of voting with your wallet and simply spending your money elsewhere for a vacation. As somebody who tries to get down to Orlando once every one or two years and who still loves to spend plenty of time walking around the World Showcase (among other things), I can't say I'm fully prepared to do that just yet, but I'll see how my feelings evolve as the changes roll along.

 

[wdisney9000]

but it turned out to be pretty good IMO.

it's a nice ride.

"Pretty good" and "nice ride" aren't exactly the reaction that the company once aimed for. Their standards were a bit higher.

 

[Mike S]

What truly needs to be done will likely not come to pass. Guests need to begin vacationing elsewhere in significant numbers. As awful as it may sound, Disney is selling a product. The quality of its product will not significantly change unless there is a change in the demand. When they build it, whatever that it happens to be, guests still come.

If guests are truly outraged over the Marvelification of Tower of Terror, then they should have stopped visiting Disney California Adventure. Guests have power. They simply need to send a message with their dollars. In this case, it is a matter of taking their vacation dollars elsewhere.

It is happening though, and with Disney's own admission in their reports. WDW attendance is dropping

 

[ToTBellHop]

"Pretty good" and "nice ride" aren't exactly the reaction that the company once aimed for. Their standards were a bit higher.

I think it's an excellent ride. If it had been built roughly where Be Our Guest Restaurant is as part of FLE, I would have been very pleased.

Another reasonable option would've been where Star Wars Launch Bay currently is.

 

[Haymarket2008]

I, unfortunately, feel that Disney's reaction to WDW's attendance drop wouldn't be to stop and reevaluate shoehorning IP's innapropriately. I feel that it would encourage it. "People aren't coming = let's bring in Guardians of the Galaxy into Epcot ASAP".

 

[wdisney9000]

I think it's an excellent ride. If it had been built roughly where Be Our Guest Restaurant is as part of FLE, I would have been very pleased.

Another reasonable option would've been where Star Wars Launch Bay currently is.

So, name a location where Haunted Mansion would be better located? Or where Horizons "should" have been built. Or where POTC would fit better.

They used to build, (not refurb) great attractions AND in a proper area and setting. Not anymore.

 

[Matt_Black]

So, name a location where Haunted Mansion would be better located?

Someplace where a late 19th century manor isn't smack in the middle of Colonial America?

 

[Mike S]

Someplace where a late 19th century manor isn't smack in the middle of Colonial America?

http://passport2dreams.blogspot.com/2010/05/history-and-haunted-mansion.html?m=1