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Gabe1

Gabe1

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Goofyernmost said:
Although I will admit that "South of the Border" relies heavily on stereotype representation, it was never meant to offend anyone and was more focused on the south of the border (being just south of the NC/SC border) situation then a slam on the Mexican Public. In fact, since it is allegedly Pedro that is running the place it is way more of a identity of Mexicans as business people. I never thought of it as an insult or an insensitivity to Mexico or it's people as it never really mentioned other then implication that there was Mexican influence and even then it was positive influence of clever entrepreneurial abilities of someone named Pedro. It was done with humor, it never put down anything Mexican even though it might have touched on the broken English that is a reality not a forced perspective. They were just funny and served a very commendable purpose of breaking up the monotony of interstate travel. In my humble opinion if anyone takes offense to it they are looking for something to be offended about.

To me it is no more offensive then when you consider that Fantasyland might be construed as something offensive to people with mental and reality disorders.
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I think maybe we are coming at 'stuff' like this from a different point of view than the generation we raised or those who followed our children. What our generation genuinely meant as no harm no foul is looked at differently than those of us who grew up through the Civil Rights era. I just think of some of the rhymes that went along with the outdoor games we played as innocent kids that I could not wrap my innocent brain around the underlining meaning and I by adulthood cringed. Different era changing times. They were not taught to my kids.

I look at what colleges are going through with their collegiate names and mascots being forced to abandon them. My sons first college lost their feather during his era at that college. Prior to my DD arriving at the University of Illinois they dropped the Chief that is still very much alive among the students despite the University abandoning. The University years back contracted the tribe to make two head pieces, beautifully done. The Chief performed an authentic dance at all major sporting events carefully taught by the tribe, it was a co-op performance taught by the tribe to the performers. It was a tribute to the tribe and the tribe was all in. Others ultimately won. The University was forced to return the head pieces to the tribe even though they were bought and payed for by the University to the tribe who willing replicated the two head pieces for the dances. It was kinda a shame 'cause it taught students what the Illini were all about. It respected heritage.

The young adults are very guarded and were raised as a whole to be respectful to all types of individuals. While our generation was kinda split between those who had the mindset to see the slights and those who at times embraced the slights. I watched with interest the issue of the confederate flag issue to see how those states would resolve all that. Just another layer that was left over and embraced by some.
Me, I watched while sitting on the school board a simple childhood instruction in school to sit Indian Style be officially changed to sitting with legs folded. Growing up I never thought anything of the saying but times they do change.
 
Gabe1

Gabe1

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Cesar R M said:
pretty sure it was related to the bugs of the website and the ads.
or was it @Gabe1 ?
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Another member not on our thread contacted me and suggested I become a member cause it cured their problems with the ads. It did. I'm still having problems with the likes from my phone but can live with that. As much as I play here even more so in the winter months it is worth the little less than the $5 a month to omit the ads that were not meshing with my computer/browser. No regrets.
 
Gabe1

Gabe1

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donaldtoo said:
Yep, waaaaayyyyyyy too short. It really needed to be at least a week. But, as I posted previously, we were thankful just to be able to make it happen at all. :)

I was gonna' post about how the move thing went last night, but, I was too wiped out by the time we got back into town at about 10p...
Anyway, Friday while at the coast, DWifey got a call from her mother (she lives with my BIL and our niece) saying that the closing on the house was delayed and that they would not be moving in until next weekend. We assumed BIL was just gonna' pay some weekly rate to keep all the stuff on the trucks 'til then.
Awesome for us! Now, we can check outta' the condo on Saturday morning, and piddle around in town for a bit before heading home, which we did.
Fast forward to about 10a Sunday (yesterday) morning...
DWifey gets a call from her mother asking where we are. WTH?!?!?! o_O
Apparently, what MIL left out of the Friday phone call was that BIL still needed us to come down yesterday to unload everything int o a storage unit, instead...! :confused:
I'm leaving out some details, but, by the time we got ourselves (DWifey, myself, an our SIL) all set to go it was about noon. 3+ hour drive to Houston begins. When we got there, he was waiting for us at the storage place with all of the stuff off the trucks (still forgot to ask who helped him with that part, but, there is no way ay he did it by himself - plenty of stuff took 3 of us to put in the storage unit), and about 1/2 of it already in the unit.
I took one look at the stuff still out and how the stuff he already in there was packed. NO WAY IN H**L was the rest of all that carp gettin' in there. so we started to pull things out and rearrange. :bored: After 3-ish more hours in the hot, humid, Houston sun we re finally doe and officially wiped out. :cyclops:
We dropped him off at the hotel and started heading back only to run into the craziest horizontally blowing rain storm for about 10 miles. Road construction barrels were being blown over and into the lanes, so a traffic snarl ensued. Finally, and thankfully, after getting through all that, the rest of the drive back was uneventful, and as I posted up there, we got back into town about 10p. Done. :cool:

OK gang, gotta' fly...
Have a Magical day...!
Laterrrrrrr...!!! :)
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Oh Wow. Not the end to a relaxing few days you should have had. Oy.

I've learned the hard way over the last few years the parents are not the most reliable form of communication they once were. I now after talking to either of my folks usually go for more info from Sis or others to get to the core. In the same situation you wound up in I'd be seeking out the BIL on a cell to confirm the update. My Mom just turned 80 and and my Dad is 87. My Mom often complains about how my Dads brain doesn't function, but in reality I am seeing far more rapid unreliability out of my Mom where my Dad is just more ornery at times. My Mom use to be the coordinator of all things family and still believes she is but behind her back my Sis and I sort through the blah blah blah. It is just a bit harder with my Sis being 2 states away from us.
 
Gabe1

Gabe1

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Cesar R M said:
No offence, but this is why white Americans should not talk about the representation of other cultures.
they have this constant " culture appropriation" and they never see anything wrong with it. (after all, the average white man as been privileged compared to other cultures).

I wont talk more about this, because it is definitively a sensitive issue.
And its starting to annoy me already.
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Hugs. I appreciate that. As I mentioned as a 50+ women I've seen things evolve over my time and progress made, we evolve. Me, being in the policy end of change in Education I've been enlightned to all sorts of evolutions not limited to culture but male perspectives vs female. I've lived through balancing out what the 'guys' got educationally vs the 'gals' and that doesn't even scratch the surface of the past with scholarships and monies for sports and activities boys vs gals let alone culturally. I know how I was raised which was pretty liberal as my Mom was also a teacher. Still as I look back to what was what when I was @StarWarsGirl95 age and what I've come to be and I'm impressed with the vast majority of us in our country. Sure we have room for improvement but most of us are raising children, pushing them to a more forward thinking generation. Then reality slaps me in the face when I listen to the news and listen to wanta be politicians and what come out of their mouths and I'm right back in the 60s. All I can pray for is that we all keep an open mind and keep moving forward. We can't rewrite history but we can write a better future.
 
Gabe1

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
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catmom46 said:
Shhhh!! Don't say the "s" word or @figmentfan423 will hear you. :jawdrop:
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Ha! True. And the news today of the Old Farmers Almanac was the statement: The Hiatus of Global Warming is likely over and the Winter will see a more severe form this year. I swear my eye balls were spinning. The over analyzing of year by year weather. Now it was a mere 18 year hiatus of gloabal warming. I wanted to pinch someone. Just did know who to pinch. I just commanded to the TV screaming stop it already. Wonder what these same peeps would say about volcano's that take hundreds of year of hiatus'.
 
catmom46

catmom46

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Gabe1 said:
I think maybe we are coming at 'stuff' like this from a different point of view than the generation we raised or those who followed our children. What our generation genuinely meant as no harm no foul is looked at differently than those of us who grew up through the Civil Rights era. I just think of some of the rhymes that went along with the outdoor games we played as innocent kids that I could not wrap my innocent brain around the underlining meaning and I by adulthood cringed. Different era changing times. They were not taught to my kids.

I look at what colleges are going through with their collegiate names and mascots being forced to abandon them. My sons first college lost their feather during his era at that college. Prior to my DD arriving at the University of Illinois they dropped the Chief that is still very much alive among the students despite the University abandoning. The University years back contracted the tribe to make two head pieces, beautifully done. The Chief performed an authentic dance at all major sporting events carefully taught by the tribe, it was a co-op performance taught by the tribe to the performers. It was a tribute to the tribe and the tribe was all in. Others ultimately won. The University was forced to return the head pieces to the tribe even though they were bought and payed for by the University to the tribe who willing replicated the two head pieces for the dances. It was kinda a shame 'cause it taught students what the Illini were all about. It respected heritage.

The young adults are very guarded and were raised as a whole to be respectful to all types of individuals. While our generation was kinda split between those who had the mindset to see the slights and those who at times embraced the slights. I watched with interest the issue of the confederate flag issue to see how those states would resolve all that. Just another layer that was left over and embraced by some.
Me, I watched while sitting on the school board a simple childhood instruction in school to sit Indian Style be officially changed to sitting with legs folded. Growing up I never thought anything of the saying but times they do change.
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Yep, at my DD's preschool, the verbal instruction to sit on the floor was "criss-cross, applesauce".
 
JenniferS

JenniferS

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catmom46 said:
Yep, at my DD's preschool, the verbal instruction to sit on the floor was "criss-cross, applesauce".
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Ha! Never heard of it.
I Googled it (of course!). Apparently it's a regional U.S. saying - often followed by "spoons in your bowl", meaning hands in your lap.

My generation called it "Indian style". My kids' school called it "tailor fashion".
 

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