BAH(on tv)

[beyondyou]

So i'm watching the travel channel and a program called Walt Disney World Resort(behind the magic) is on.

they get to the section on DHS and are talking about how the park needed an icon. Not that is had one before, but how it NEEDED ONE. so they build the BAH...

i dont think i can handle everyone thinking the BAH is the icon of the park.

ok, rant over. discuss lol

 

[Wilt Dasney]

For better or for worse, the Hat is the park's icon for now.

 

[cblodg]

For better or for worse, the Hat is the park's icon for now.

:nod:

Sad but true.

 

[dandaman]

Humbug.

 

[Laura]

Yep. Ever looked at a property map? Or any Disney merchandise? Studios is always represented by the hat.

 

[Deadman]

screw the hat. its about as much of a eyesore as the wand in Epcot was

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

So i'm watching the travel channel and a program called Walt Disney World Resort(behind the magic) is on.

they get to the section on DHS and are talking about how the park needed an icon. Not that is had one before, but how it NEEDED ONE. so they build the BAH...

i dont think i can handle everyone thinking the BAH is the icon of the park.

ok, rant over. discuss lol

Wow. How many times can they be wrong?!:fork::ROFLOL:

Yep. Ever looked at a property map? Or any Disney merchandise? Studios is always represented by the hat.

In WDW itself, many locations still use the Earful Tower as the icon....Which it should, seeing that it was the original and seeing that it's identifiable.

I never really got the logic of changing both icon and weenie for the park.

 

[EpcotServo]

In WDW itself, many locations still use the Earful Tower as the icon....Which it should, seeing that it was the original and seeing that it's identifiable.

I never really got the logic of changing both icon and weenie for the park.

The Earful Tower has never been the icon Evan...Stop with that.
:hammer: :brick:

Chinese Theater and Tower of Terror are the two big Icons, Pre-Hat. The Tree of Life and Forbidden Mountain if you will.

Earful Tower and the Archway are icons for the Backlot, fitting into the fact that Studios is the most iconic park of them all, featuring icons such as the At-At, Muppets Balloon, Stratocastor and Gravity Building, Superstar Television Theater and Sound Dangerous radio tower, New York Street skyline...It's what gives Studios the best skyline of WDW, it's got a cool profile.

The Reason for the Hat is they didn't think the Chinese Theater was "magical enough" to meet the 2001-era standards of "Merchandise the heck out of everything." Thankfully they are getting wiser and rethinking their ways, not everything has to feature Mickey and Magic to sell. The De-wanding was the first step in this direction, as they put it up to fit Spaceship Earth into the "Magical Merchandising Standards."

 

[DougK]

OK, I feel stupid, but what is BAH? I know it's the hat in DHS, but what does BAH stand for?

Thanks!

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

The Earful Tower has never been the icon Evan...Stop with that.
:hammer: :brick:

Chinese Theater and Tower of Terror are the two big Icons, Pre-Hat. The Tree of Life and Forbidden Mountain if you will.

Earful Tower and the Archway are icons for the Backlot, fitting into the fact that Studios is the most iconic park of them all, featuring icons such as the At-At, Muppets Balloon, Stratocastor and Gravity Building, Superstar Television Theater and Sound Dangerous radio tower, New York Street skyline...It's what gives Studios the best skyline of WDW, it's got a cool profile.

The Reason for the Hat is they didn't think the Chinese Theater was "magical enough" to meet the 2001-era standards of "Merchandise the heck out of everything." Thankfully they are getting wiser and rethinking their ways, not everything has to feature Mickey and Magic to sell. The De-wanding was the first step in this direction, as they put it up to fit Spaceship Earth into the "Magical Merchandising Standards."

Where are you getting this from? In every piece of literature on MGM, that I have read, the Earful Tower was the Icon, as seen on retro merch, signs, etc, and the weenie was the theater, seeing that it was in the middle of the park, and drew you down the "Main Street".


Never heard this stuff with the ToT, and all these other smaller buildings. They work as Icons for the individual lands, but not for the park. That was officially for The Earful Tower.:shrug:

 

[toystory 3]

I never really had a huge problem with the hat but I always thought that DHS should best be represented by the Animation Square....

 

[Disney4Eva]

This may get me thrown into the "Opinions that could get me thrown in wdwmagic jail" thread, but......I like the hat and have no problem with it being the icon :zipit:

 

[ddrongowski]

OK, I feel stupid, but what is BAH? I know it's the hat in DHS, but what does BAH stand for?

Thanks!

I was wondering the same, so I yahoo'ed it and it is inappropriate for this site. BAH "big (-noun - a long-eared, slow, patient, sure-footed domesticated mammal, Equus asinus, related to the horse, used chiefly as a beast of burden) hat".

 

[DougK]

I was wondering the same, so I yahoo'ed it and it is inappropriate for this site. BAH "big (-noun - a long-eared, slow, patient, sure-footed domesticated mammal, Equus asinus, related to the horse, used chiefly as a beast of burden) hat".

Gee, I was hoping for something more clever. I never would have figured it out!

I hope that someday they get rid of it, or at least move it.

Thanks!

 

[EpcotServo]

Where are you getting this from? In every piece of literature on MGM, that I have read, the Earful Tower was the Icon, as seen on retro merch, signs, etc, and the weenie was the theater, seeing that it was in the middle of the park, and drew you down the "Main Street".


Never heard this stuff with the ToT, and all these other smaller buildings. They work as Icons for the individual lands, but not for the park. That was officially for The Earful Tower.:shrug:

What literature? The "I'm out of my freaking mind" book?
:lol:

Yeah, Earful tower is an ICON. It isn't THE ICON though. Sure it was on a few bits of merchandise, but take a closer look at the signage...Chinese Theater was/is featured on signs and was on even more loads of merchandise than the Earful tower. It was on Maps, it was in guidebooks, and all the art featured it. I quote again imagineering who said the theater is "Our Castle at the end of Main Street".


Even if it is featured somewhere in some book, you need to get out of the library...When people see Tower of Terror, they think of Studios. Same with all the other icons, skyline, etc. Studios is filled with Icons. The Main Icon though (Pre-hat) is the one at the center of it all, the Chinese Theater. It's what you see when you enter, and see when you leave. The entire park is built around it, and even more it represents and encapsulates the mood, spirit, and soul of the park. Can you honestly say that about the Earful Tower, which you can only see at one spot in the park or on the Backlot Tour? It's an icon, yes, but it's an icon on the scale of the Studio Arch. It's placement yes, but icons are more about soul and feeling.

And seriously, name that book...I have a bone to pick with it. I shall have it fight to the death with the rest of the Family Disney Book Libary for it's crimes.
:lol:

 

[ddrongowski]

Gee, I was hoping for something more clever. I never would have figured it out!

I hope that someday they get rid of it, or at least move it.

Thanks!

When I said "inappropriate for this site", I meant wdwmagic.com as the site. After all the middle word is not family friendly. The Big Sorcerer Hat fits well into Disney Hollywood Studios. I say this because fantasia (where the hat came from) is a full feature length movie made by Disney? So why would the Big Sorcerer Hat not be appropriate?

 

[ryno1982]

The Earful Tower was 100%, no questions asked the original icon of the park. Just look at the Walt Disney World logo from 1989 to 1998. It had the castle, SSE, and the Earful Tower. Then when DAK opened it was the castle, SSE, Earful Tower, and Tree of Life. The OP was simply pointing out that Disney ignored this during the TV show, not that the hat isn't the icon.

 

[EpcotServo]

The Earful Tower was 100%, no questions asked the original icon of the park. Just look at the Walt Disney World logo from 1989 to 1998. It had the castle, SSE, and the Earful Tower. Then when DAK opened it was the castle, SSE, Earful Tower, and Tree of Life. The OP was simply pointing out that Disney ignored this during the TV show, not that the hat isn't the icon.

Only because you can't draw the Theater in the simplistic resort wide logos. It's like the Midway Mania vs. Mania arguement, some people will still stick by "Toy Story Mania" as the name because marketing uses it. Point Blank, asked and reasked, and BY THE POWER VESTED IN IMAGINEERING, the name is Toy Story Midway Mania, and the icon of Studios was/is the Chinese Theater. I personally have talked with some people from marketing the same question and the answer has always been "The Chinese Theater was a great icon in person, but was hard to slap on simple logos and T-Shirts," And that's where the Hat came in. All questions asked, because not asking questions usually isn't the best way to get answers.

I stand by what Imagineering designed to be the Main Icon, not what marketing has used off and on.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

What literature? The "I'm out of my freaking mind" book?
:lol:

Yeah, Earful tower is an ICON. It isn't THE ICON though. Sure it was on a few bits of merchandise, but take a closer look at the signage...Chinese Theater was/is featured on signs and was on even more loads of merchandise than the Earful tower. It was on Maps, it was in guidebooks, and all the art featured it. I quote again imagineering who said the theater is "Our Castle at the end of Main Street".


Even if it is featured somewhere in some book, you need to get out of the library...When people see Tower of Terror, they think of Studios. Same with all the other icons, skyline, etc. Studios is filled with Icons. The Main Icon though (Pre-hat) is the one at the center of it all, the Chinese Theater. It's what you see when you enter, and see when you leave. The entire park is built around it, and even more it represents and encapsulates the mood, spirit, and soul of the park. Can you honestly say that about the Earful Tower, which you can only see at one spot in the park or on the Backlot Tour? It's an icon, yes, but it's an icon on the scale of the Studio Arch. It's placement yes, but icons are more about soul and feeling.

And seriously, name that book...I have a bone to pick with it. I shall have it fight to the death with the rest of the Family Disney Book Libary for it's crimes.
:lol:

Not at home, and I won't be for a bit....I'll go looking soon. :lol: Maybe it was online, where I read about the Earful Tower.

I still disagree. The Theater is the "Castle", yes. I understand that. It's the WEENIE. It represents that part of the park, and draws you in, but is not a representation of the park itself. That's how I see it, anyway. Read it too, somewhere...It might have been by Kurtti.

Disagree with the "Filled with Icons" idea, too....I think you are confusing it with weenies.

 

[Wilt Dasney]

Whether it was a good choice or not (I never thought it was), the Earfful Tower was definitely the structure that was marketed as the park icon on opening day. Like it or not, whatever marketing chooses to make "the icon" becomes "the icon" to most people. That's the only reason the Hat is "the icon"...because it's placed next to CC, SSE and ToL on all the T-shirts and golf ball sets. Nobody really thinks it deserves that honor in its own right.