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EPCOT Explorer

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I do not think that TWDC should continue this ridiculous "wait and see" last minute scheduling.

But I do think that Steve should keep posting what he knows a month before TWDC actually releases it. :wave:

Agreed and agreed. I can see numbers being skewed because of this. Do they WANT MK and EPCOT to be packed while DHS isn't?
 

GothMickey

Active Member
Is yours any more necessary?

Mine is cause the naysayers are starting to slowly be shown they are just whining and wrong. Now that this is happening, they are starting to twist their words, getting defensive, and starting to play nice. Well, at any chance we get, we have to show how wrong they were. Then, maybe the negativity will go away and we can keep playing nice.

Thanks again Steve for being right on!!!!
 

The Conundrum

New Member
Oh it's not. It's not. More to come. Stay tuned. :lol:

not quite sure what your hoping to accomplish by undermining '74. Even if he did speak in error about the times (which im still not sure he did) I can show you plenty of posts where he provided inside information on both Miceage and LP way before I saw it get mentioned here.

Will you be cutting down the other insiders afterwards? Afterall they have also said some less than positive things about Disney's decision making when it comes to the parks.
 

marsrunner

New Member
Yes you did Steve. And you were continually knocked down by WDW1974. Even though you kept saying these were the plans, he kept insisting you were wrong. He cannot sugar coat and spin it now. Thank you Stsve for giving us ACCURATE information.

So in the original thread (http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=446135) the only interplay between WDW1974 and wdwmagic I can see is the following:

Currently the MK is set to show the July 4 pyro on the 3rd as normal. The Studios also have their show lined up for the 4th as normal.

The above two changes havn't yet made it to the calendars, but I'm assured that as this point they are both online to go as normal.

Interesting since Disney's own press releases haven't been updated to reflect those ... not doubting your info ... it just seems dumb on their part.

As to the Studios, I heard the pyro issue there was problematic because they'd have to close down TSMM (and naturally don't want to do so) ...

No matter, it's just not good guest service for us to be past Memorial Day and they don't have their REAL July 4th plans out for the public to see and plan by.

So, just for the sake of accuracy, where did WDW1974 say that Steve was "wrong"? As near as I can tell, Steve pointed out (correctly, as it turns out) that the hours were longer than what had currently been posted on the Disney site along with an additional showing on the 4th fireworks, and WDW1974 pointed out that the press releases didn't say the same.

Am I missing something (quite possible!), or is this just another attempt by one side of this argument to twist the words of the other side?
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
not quite sure what your hoping to accomplish by undermining '74. Even if he did speak in error about the times (which im still not sure he did) I can show you plenty of posts where he provided inside information on both Miceage and LP way before I saw it get mentioned here.

Will you be cutting down the other insiders afterwards? Afterall they have also said some less than positive things about Disney's decision making when it comes to the parks.

It's usually not what he says it's how he says it. And he even admitted he has an "in your face" posting style a few days ago. He barged in here months ago and started getting in people's faces before taking the time to get to know the posters here or what this forum is all about. I understand why he does what he does, but this isn't the place to discuss it.


That is my take on it anyway. I'm sure there are other opinions out there.
 

GothMickey

Active Member
not quite sure what your hoping to accomplish by undermining '74. Even if he did speak in error about the times (which im still not sure he did) I can show you plenty of posts where he provided inside information on both Miceage and LP way before I saw it get mentioned here.

Will you be cutting down the other insiders afterwards? Afterall they have also said some less than positive things about Disney's decision making when it comes to the parks.

Just pointing out when he and you are wrong. That is all.

I say less than positivie things when I don't agree with TDO's or Disney's decisions. However, I don't come on here all high and mighty, sprouting off negative comment after negative comment, like you and 74. So, when you and 74 conitune spew out the negativity about NOTHING coming, or Disney NOT doing this and that, then it is proved OTHERWISE, then yes, calling out we shall do. And if you are proven correct, props will be given where and when due.
 

The Conundrum

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I say less than positivie things when I don't agree with TDO's or Disney's decisions. However, I don't come on here all high and mighty, sprouting off negative comment after negative comment, like you and 74. So, when you and 74 conitune spew out the negativity about NOTHING coming, or Disney NOT doing this and that, then it is proved OTHERWISE, then yes, calling out we shall do. And if you are proven correct, props will be given where and when due.

What has proven otherwise??? Did Disney send out some press releases and built some new rides when I wasn't looking?

People have been saying nothing new (OF SUBSTANCE) is coming to WDW in the next few years for months now. While it is true WDI is constantly cooking up ideas these ideas can get made unless the executive team signs off on them which they are not planning to do.

The only thing that has a shot is Star Tours 2 because the infrastructure is already there at MGM but who knows when/if TDO will be willing to close it for the upgrade since "the visitor base are tourists on an average 2 year cycle and expect to have everything open when they are there."
 

GothMickey

Active Member
What has proven otherwise??? Did Disney send out some press releases and built some new rides when I wasn't looking?

People have been saying nothing new (OF SUBSTANCE) is coming to WDW in the next few years for months now. While it is true WDI is constantly cooking up ideas these ideas can get made unless the executive team signs off on them which they are not planning to do.

The only thing that has a shot is Star Tours 2 because the infrastructure is already there at MGM but who knows when/if TDO will be willing to close it for the upgrade since "the visitor base are tourists on an average 2 year cycle and expect to have everything open when they are there."

WHEN is the key word there... WHEN you are proven wrong. OF SUBSTANCE is a subjective term. We COULD get an announcement of certain projects that many of us would feel is OF SUBSTANCE. You and 74 and others probably would say they are not.

We shall wait and see what comes of these rumors, if anything. We are only in June. WDW usually announces things in October right? We are also hearing about possible announcements in January 2010? So, when these two months pass, and NOTHING is announced, then you would be more on point. But, if there are announcements that things are coming, then you'll be wrong. And you cannot say that is takes two years to build an attraction as proof you are right. Once there is an announcement, and walls go up, ground is broken, you would then be WRONG. And yes, I will point that out. :)
 

Buried20KLeague

Well-Known Member
So in the original thread (http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=446135) the only interplay between WDW1974 and wdwmagic I can see is the following:





So, just for the sake of accuracy, where did WDW1974 say that Steve was "wrong"? As near as I can tell, Steve pointed out (correctly, as it turns out) that the hours were longer than what had currently been posted on the Disney site along with an additional showing on the 4th fireworks, and WDW1974 pointed out that the press releases didn't say the same.

Am I missing something (quite possible!), or is this just another attempt by one side of this argument to twist the words of the other side?


Thanks, Marsrunner. :wave: I rolled my eyes when GothMickey posted and knew it was only a matter of time till someone quoted the actual words said on the earlier thread on this topic.. Which in no way show 74 was either wrong, OR telling Steve he was wrong... In fact, quite the opposite.

I'm getting really sick of people's false views of "objectivity".

The proof is in the pudding. I suggest the thread be locked.
 

WDW1974

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Thanks, Marsrunner. :wave: I rolled my eyes when GothMickey posted and knew it was only a matter of time till someone quoted the actual words said on the earlier thread on this topic.. Which in no way show 74 was either wrong, OR telling Steve he was wrong... In fact, quite the opposite.

I'm getting really sick of people's false views of "objectivity".

The proof is in the pudding. I suggest the thread be locked.

Please, I appreciate the sentiment, but it's wasted.

There are some folks here who would rather attack my credibility than dare criticize TDO or Iger and Rasulo. Why should facts get in the way with attacks based on opinions (and in this case an outright lie about what I said)? There are a vocal minority that want me to leave here so they can suck on pixie dust 24/7.

It's all about pi$$ing contests and it gets old very quickly.

FWIW, Disney's 'updated' release isn't even accurate. It states MK will be open 9-11 on the Fourth (what has been posted for months on the website) ... all internal schedules were updated this week to reflect an 8-1 operating day at MK.

In other words, yet again TDO doesn't have its poo together.

Oh and before folks start praising TDO for showing the July 4th show on the 3rd as well, I'll point out that in Anaheim they are showing the show from July 2-5.
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
Please, I appreciate the sentiment, but it's wasted.

There are some folks here who would rather attack my credibility than dare criticize TDO or Iger and Rasulo. Why should facts get in the way with attacks based on opinions (and in this case an outright lie about what I said)? There are a vocal minority that want me to leave here so they can suck on pixie dust 24/7.

It's all about pi$$ing contests and it gets old very quickly.

FWIW, Disney's 'updated' release isn't even accurate. It states MK will be open 9-11 on the Fourth (what has been posted for months on the website) ... all internal schedules were updated this week to reflect an 8-1 operating day at MK.

In other words, yet again TDO doesn't have its poo together.

Oh and before folks start praising TDO for showing the July 4th show on the 3rd as well, I'll point out that in Anaheim they are showing the show from July 2-5.
Ugh...And they have the "smaller" demographic.

We need DL Parks Ops. Now.:lol:
 

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