Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Chi84]

Because we're on a forum where you discuss things, including speculation. If we limited the forums to certified facts it would be insanely boring and none of us would likely be here.

There are a lot less of us than there used to be. Maybe the baseless speculation is not as entertaining as you think it is.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

There are a lot less of us than there used to be. Maybe the baseless speculation is not as entertaining as you think it is.

Or maybe the endless attempts to muzzle people with differing opinions is so tedious people decide it's not a fun place to be so they go elsewhere.

But here we go "speculating" again... which is apparently a bad thing, so we better stop and get back to facts!

 

[Disney Irish]

Gal Gadot: Every Upcoming Movie and TV Show in 2025 and 2026

Although Gal Gadot-Varsano made her international film debut as Gisele Yashar in the 2009 movie ‘Fast & Furious,’ what made her achieve global stardom and popularity is her portrayal of Wonder Woman in the DC Extended Universe movies, such as ‘Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice,’ ‘Wonder Woman,’...

thecinemaholic.com

Technically movies and shows, and I forgot the list included SW so 7.

Ok, so as I suspected, there is only one confirmed actual release which is Hand of Dante. It was already filmed and just awaiting a release date. All the rest are in various stages of development. I’ve even long suspected that Cleopatra will be canceled or she’ll be released from it due to her own controversy with the role.

Anyways as I mentioned she is further along in her career so has had much more time to develop projects and get a pipeline going.

 

[Figments Friend]

According to Variety yesterday, the Snow White premiere is pretty much closed to the press. None of the usual Hollywood trades or TV shows or websites are being allowed in to the premiere arrival process, AKA Red Carpet. Instead, the Red Carpet will be limited to select still photographers only, and a "house crew" from Disney capturing video/audio work of the event.

So they're locking this down tight, doing all the videography in house to be released as edited B Roll, and not letting any press in who might inadvertently capture words spoken by Rachel Zegler. Fascinating!

If I were to guess, this is both a reaction to the philosophical loose cannon that is Miss Zegler and the damage she's already done to this movie since 2023 AND the likelihood that this $240+ Million alleged tentpole movie isn't expected to do very well at the box office.

Disney Scales Back ‘Snow White’ Hollywood Premiere Amid Rachel Zegler and Gal Gadot Controversies

'Snow White' stars Rachel Zegler and Gal Gadot have faced backlash for comments about the movie's reimagining and their views on the Israel-Hamas war.

variety.com

Oh big time.

This film is going to flop spectacularly, for sure.


Folks will save their money for the ‘LILO & Stitch’ remake.
Now THAT film…that film is going to be a blockbuster and make stupid money.
Stupid crazy amounts of money.
Bob Iger Can Buy Texas and The Alamo Money…!

Snow White - flop
Lilo & Stitch - mega hit

The power of Stitch compels you.

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[Tony the Tigger]

There are a lot less of us than there used to be. Maybe the baseless speculation is not as entertaining as you think it is.

Catching up on the last few pages was not at all entertaining.

Or maybe the endless attempts to muzzle people with differing opinions is so tedious people decide it's not a fun place to be so they go elsewhere.

But here we go "speculating" again... which is apparently a bad thing, so we better stop and get back to facts!

We are more muzzled by the moderators than anything else. I can’t say 2/3 of very valid points I have to make, and even mentioning facts like FAA workers being fired was edited out by a moderator in a relevant thread about reduced flight bookings.

That’s a lot worse than what you’re describing.

Oh big time.

This film is going to flop spectacularly, for sure.


Folks will save their money for the ‘LILO & Stitch’ remake.
Now THAT film…that film is going to be a blockbuster and make stupid money.
Stupid crazy amounts of money.
Bob Iger Can Buy Texas and The Alamo Money…!

Snow White - flop
Lilo & Stitch - mega hit

The power of Stitch compels you.

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Right. Because people can’t go to both.

Don’t bother with “but some people…” I don’t want to hear it, it’s nonsense. Millions in box office receipts every single day.

 

[Chi84]

Or maybe the endless attempts to muzzle people with differing opinions is so tedious people decide it's not a fun place to be so they go elsewhere.

But here we go "speculating" again... which is apparently a bad thing, so we better stop and get back to facts!

These boards have become increasingly negative. The posters who previously noted that fact post less often now or have just left.

I guess there must be some fun in predicting the failure of actors who appear in Disney films or say things you don’t want to hear.

I’m not out to silence anyone, but what’s the sense in just making things up and then arguing about it?

 

[MagicMouseFan]

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[Trauma]

These boards have become increasingly negative. The posters who previously noted that fact post less often now or have just left.

I guess there must be some fun in predicting the failure of actors who appear in Disney films or say things you don’t want to hear.

I’m not out to silence anyone, but what’s the sense in just making things up and then arguing about it?

So just about everything the company does now is of poor quality and you surprised the boards are increasingly negative ?

 

[Agent H]

So just about everything the company does now is of poor quality and you surprised the boards are increasingly negative ?

quality is subjective.

 

[Trauma]

quality is subjective.

Sure but when more and more people are upset about the quality of Disneys products that is an indicator something is wrong.

If your CEO and you’re being told that the customers are not happy because they feel like quality has been reduced, you should be immediately discharged by the board if you respond with “quality is subjective”.

 

[Farerb]

Rachel might have a career after Snow White, probably Broadway and Indie films. I don't wish her ill, I think most of us were stupid and smug at 23. However, I'm not going to watch anything else with her as long as she doesn't publicly apologize to Gal Gadot. There are a few other actors I've decided to not watch anything with them.

 

[TP2000]

Rachel might have a career after Snow White, probably Broadway and Indie films. I don't wish her ill, I think most of us were stupid and smug at 23. However, I'm not going to watch anything else with her as long as she doesn't publicly apologize to Gal Gadot. There are a few other actors I've decided to not watch anything with them.

I had plenty of bravado and pulled a few stupid stunts in my early 20's. Every 20 year old kid does.

But I never got close to what Miss Zegler has done regarding very public offensive statements about half her paying customers, her own employer, and her employer's near-sacred and once-proud history.

If I'd have done 10% of what Miss Zegler did by age 22 regarding her employer and its customers, I would have been fired three times over, beat up once or twice, and been thrown out of my apartment. Ah, Hollywood!

 

[Chi84]

So just about everything the company does now is of poor quality and you surprised the boards are increasingly negative ?

I think the company puts out a very high quality product.

 

[TP2000]

Catching up on the last few pages was not at all entertaining.

Don't worry, it will pick up soon.

The past month has been the late winter doldrums, since Captain America 4 flamed out fast after a rather dismal opening.

We just haven't had much box office news to discuss. But in a week we'll have the Snow White premiere weekend, and then we'll be off to the races again on Disney box office talk, with hard facts and Cherry Picked data to back it all up!

Until then, here's a few fun Snow White nuggets today from industry media watchers...

Inside ‘Snow White’ movie nightmare as Disney ‘doesn’t know what to do’ with outspoken star Rachel Zegler

With problems piling up for the new live-action “Snow White,” the son of the 1937 version’s director told Page Six it’s enough to make his father and Walt Disney “roll…

pagesix.com

'Go Woke, Go Broke': Disney's 'Snow White' Predicted To Be A Box Office Flop

Disney executives reportedly know the 2025 Snow White remake starring Rachel Zegler will flop at the box office, and are preparing for the worst.

www.ibtimes.co.uk

With live-action 'Snow White,' Disney finds itself again in culture war crosshairs

Disney's live-action 'Snow White' has faced a difficult road to its opening next week, with external controversies it at every step.

www.latimes.com

 

[Tony the Tigger]

These boards have become increasingly negative. The posters who previously noted that fact post less often now or have just left.

I guess there must be some fun in predicting the failure of actors who appear in Disney films or say things you don’t want to hear.

I’m not out to silence anyone, but what’s the sense in just making things up and then arguing about it?

This.

As a Disney fan since the early 70’s, it’s bummer to come here and read all this negativity from people who mostly follow groupthink and want to sound smart. To me, it’s just snobbiness, and a real turn-off.

Go start a Disney hate site.

Criticize or offer constructive feedback on occasion. I do. When it’s every day, something is up. And when people think they know better than trained imagineers, they don’t.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I had plenty of bravado and pulled a few stupid stunts in my early 20's. Every 20 year old kid does.

But I never got close to what Miss Zegler has done regarding very public offensive statements about half her paying customers, her own employer, and her employer's near-sacred and once-proud history.

If I'd have done 10% of what Miss Zegler did by age 22 regarding her employer and its customers, I would have been fired three times over, beat up once or twice, and been thrown out of my apartment. Ah, Hollywood!

I’m so glad there weren’t camera phones around when I was a wild youth in my late teens and early 20s, nothing illegal but lots of things I’d find embarrassing now that I’m an adult, also glad I didn’t have cameras pointed in my face all the time, I’ve always been just as opinionated as I am now, I like to think I’d know better than to say something stupid on camera but as often as I edit comments here (after reading them and realizing they don’t adequately convey what I meant) I think it’s inevitable I would have.

I say the same when discussing athletes who blow millions and go broke, I like to think I wouldn’t be that stupid but had you given me millions of dollars in my early 20s I’d probably have blown it also. Kids do stupid things, it’s part of being a kid and learning, and yes I include the 20 somethings as kids.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

This.

As a Disney fan since the early 70’s, it’s bummer to come here and read all this negativity from people who mostly follow groupthink and want to sound smart. To me, it’s just snobbiness, and a real turn-off.

Go start a Disney hate site.

Criticize or offer constructive feedback on occasion. I do. When it’s every day, something is up. And when people think they know better than trained imagineers, they don’t.

I think Disney forums have always had a lot of negativity, I remember when I joined around 2012 thinking all the old timers were so grumpy here, at the time I was a new to the parks pixie duster and amazed by everything at the parks.

I quit posting here for several years because I was so busy enjoying the parks I didn’t have time for the negativity, then covid happened and I started posting again to get my Disney fix, unfortunately once the parks reopened they made such drastic negative changes I found myself becoming the negative Disney grump myself.

I think people mistake passion for hate, if we actually hated Disney we wouldn’t waste our time here, we’re here because we love Disney, passion is often accompanied by complaints, usually towards management. Go to a pro team fan forum and you’ll find the exact same thing, people talking about which players they love, which they hate, what coach needs to go, etc. Strong passions breed strong opinions.

 

[Trauma]

I think the company puts out a very high quality product.

Unless you have enough money to keep the parks profitable on your own, it doesn’t matter what you or I think. It’s what the majority of people think and the sentiment has been increasingly negative for years now.

 

[Farerb]

I'm not from the US so I never cared about the parks, but as a Disney fan I'm absolutely devastated by what Bob Iger did to this company.
Turning their backs on hand drawn animation, Disney's biggest legacy, and then doing mostly just pointless remakes with no passion behind them, more sequels, focusing on franchises, focusing only on grossing billions so there's no risk taking and no innovation anymore. It hasn't been detrimental to Disney alone, but to Hollywood entirely. Most movies are basically the same now, they even added irreverent "MCU humor" to Lilo and Stitch now.

 

[coffeefan]

Unless you have enough money to keep the parks profitable on your own, it doesn’t matter what you or I think. It’s what the majority of people think and the sentiment has been increasingly negative for years now.

But maybe those people are just loud. Since demand for Disney theme parks, movies, video games etc says otherwise.