DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Disstevefan1 said:
Only time will tell what the alleged $17B for WDW will get us over the 10 year period.

Are we 1 or 2 years into the ten years? When did this 10 year clock start?
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Could you just chill your over-eager desire to score points against Disney? Take a breath. Touch some grass. Disney isn't being tried before the Celestial Judgment with you as the prosecutor.

Your mad rush to score those points is incredibly transparent and you wind up posting foolishness as you trip over yourself posting nonsense.

I just posted how the promised billions wasn't that big a deal. Me. The shill. I took the wind out of Disney's sail.

But that's not enough for you, is it? Here you are trying to gather evidence for your next tear-down post or dumb meme art.

Give it a rest.
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
MisterPenguin said:
Could you just chill your over-eager desire to score points against Disney? Take a breath. Touch some grass. Disney isn't being tried before the Celestial Judgment with you as the prosecutor.

Your mad rush to score those points is incredibly transparent and you wind up posting foolishness as you trip over yourself posting nonsense.

I just posted how the promised billions wasn't that big a deal. Me. The shill. I took the wind out of Disney's sail.

But that's not enough for you, is it? Here you are trying to gather evidence for your next tear-down post or dumb meme art.

Give it a rest.
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I will say this is a perfectly crafted non answer with just the right amount of sarcasm and mocking. ;)

Well done. Iger would be pleased. Keep up the good work. ;)

I am going outside to talk to my trees now. ;)
 
Stripes

Stripes

Premium Member
HauntedPirate said:
$30 billion over 11 parks (not counting TDR) over a decade, plus whatever resort spending gets included in that bucket, isn’t exactly awe-inspiring.

Funny what happens to that big, massive, talking-point number when you start breaking it down.
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$30 billion in capacity expanding investments (new projects) is quite a lot. It’s actually more impressive to me than the $60 billion figure. Bear in mind, the $30 billion doesn’t include tech and maintenance capex either.

There are more Imagineers working at WDI right now than at any other time in Walt Disney Imagineering’s history.
 
TheCoasterNerd

TheCoasterNerd

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Stripes said:
There are more Imagineers working at WDI right now than at any other time in Walt Disney Imagineering’s history.
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But... but they're the Gensler Unimagineers who are actually destroying more right now than at any other time so actually you're just wrong and Epic Universe is actually better than Disney will ever be you shill
joking, obviously
 
Freshee61

Freshee61

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I do not understand why they have to take out Dinosaur! Its its ridiculous and for indiana?!... what are they thinking or lack of .. leave the animal theme ride in the animal kingdom park! (*ugh, dont even get me started on encanto*)
 
Stripes

Stripes

Premium Member
Ayla said:
It's an indication of bloat.
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Or so you think. Bear in mind, they’ve bulked up in just the past 2-3 years, just like they have in past eras of major expansion such as the creation of EPCOT Center and Shanghai Disneyland.
TheCoasterNerd said:
But... but they're the Gensler Unimagineers who are actually destroying more right now than at any other time so actually you're just wrong and Epic Universe is actually better than Disney will ever be you shill
joking, obviously
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It’s comical. For context, only about 0.5% of Imagineers used to work at Gensler.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Stripes said:
About $30 billion has been earmarked for “capacity expanding investments” in parks and resorts (not including cruise fleet expansion).

Does Dinosaur typically operate at full-capacity?
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MisterPenguin said:
Well, there's also the statement about $17B for WDW alone, and $60B for all of parks *and experiences* (i.e. DCL).

Several of us noted at the time of those announcements that, over 10 years, it's pretty much what Disney has already been spending. So, this isn't particularly extraordinary.

However, it is good news that they aren't returning to the doldrums of decades ago when a pittance was spent on Capex. At least, not for the next 10 years.
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…it’s starting to sink in a little bit, isn’t it?
 
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Grantwil93

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Disstevefan1 said:
I think Disney intended to just forfeit both dinosaurs and dragons to Universal. ;)
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Once camp cretaceous became popular(animated kids show set in movie universe), Disney waved the white flag. Universal has an all ages franchise with content for every relevant age group. Disney doesn't feel it's worth the effort to try and compete there.

Not saying it's right, but i sorta get it.
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
Grantwil93 said:
Once camp cretaceous became popular(animated kids show set in movie universe), Disney waved the white flag. Universal has an all ages franchise with content for every relevant age group. Disney doesn't feel it's worth the effort to try and compete there.

Not saying it's right, but i sorta get it.
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Agreed. Disney has plenty of IP to work with all they need to do spend some money and do the right thing with them.

Only time will tell.
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
HauntedPirate said:
Can someone explain how this is considered “an expansion” when there is no net-new attraction count? Are we bending the definition to suit the “$60 billion” statements?
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A misunderstanding has occurred. There was no promise that it’s exclusively expanded capacity. It’s capital investment of any sort, which obviously this is new capital investment. Even “new capital investment” is only 70%.

A further significant investment is not even really what you’d deem new at all, like the BTMM retrack. Thats still from another 30% sub-pot that’s more along the refurb pool.

“The Walt Disney Company is developing plans to accelerate and expand investment in its Parks, Experiences and Products segment to nearly double capital expenditures over the course of approximately 10 years to roughly $60 billion, including by investing in expanding and enhancing domestic and international parks and cruise line capacity.”
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
BrianLo said:
We’re in year 3. Starting Oct 1, 2023 through Sept 30 2033.
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THANK YOU! :) Into year three, less than 7 years to go.

I think they got some permits approved. I think there are some constriction trailers in place. There are some walls up.

They moved some imaginers into the Galactic Star cruiser they prematurely gave up on.

Oh yea, they are rapidly building that new DVC where River Country was....
 
DisneyDean97

DisneyDean97

Well-Known Member
Sirwalterraleigh said:
The more they sink into ip…the more the parks look like a mess…

…but who’s counting?
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While its a small consolation, at least the new land at AK will be themed to a region of the world, like all the other lands at AK (other than Pandora) what the first showed with Moana and Zootopia taking over DINOSAUR would have been even worse for the park.
 

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