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DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

celluloid

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It depends on how much they’re willing to spend on sets. Done correctly, you could have an awesome maze of passages.
Yes. And effects and timing vehicle programming. This is why the status quo would be the concern and hopefully the teams overcome it. . Interior physical sets on grand continious envrionments is not something recent projects include very often, and certainly not on the IJA scale in recent decade. Be more cautiously excited would be my message.
 

Marc Davis Fan

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It depends on how much they’re willing to spend on sets. Done correctly, you could have an awesome maze of passages.
I could imagine doors closing or walls falling that result in unexpected changes of direction, etc. Sometimes limitations are the source of unexpected creativity... but unfortunately, @celluloid says it's not looking like that, so unless they're wrong or plans change...
 

ToTBellHop

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I could imagine doors closing or walls falling that result in unexpected changes of direction, etc. Sometimes limitations are the source of unexpected creativity... but unfortunately, @celluloid says it's not looking like that, so unless they're wrong or plans change...
Something like RotR would be nice, but that’s really expensive…maybe they can find the money since the ride system stays?
 

WorldExplorer

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- Disney recently rethemed one of the most iconic attractions on Earth while bloviating about how important their replacement is and it was a clear downgrade

- They don't maintain the ride that's already there

- The new theme is blatantly chosen because it's the cheapest option

- The new ride is not the existing ride people already like that would require adding effects

I know I'm biased, but I don't think it's unreasonable to come to the conclusion this won't be a money-spending extravaganza with ideal results.
 

celluloid

Well-Known Member
- Disney recently rethemed one of the most iconic attractions on Earth while bloviating about how important their replacement is and it was a clear downgrade

- They don't maintain the ride that's already there

- The new theme is blatantly chosen because it's the cheapest option

- The new ride is not the existing ride people already like that would require adding effects

I know I'm biased, but I don't think it's unreasonable to come to the conclusion this won't be a money-spending extravaganza with ideal results.
This. The staus quo speaks for itself.
 

EagleScout610

What a wisecracker
Premium Member
If it helps figuring out how they could work Indy into this track, here's the layout for DINOSAUR.
Screenshot 2024-10-04 at 12.49.27 PM.png
 

EagleScout610

What a wisecracker
Premium Member
- Disney recently rethemed one of the most iconic attractions on Earth while bloviating about how important their replacement is and it was a clear downgrade

- They don't maintain the ride that's already there

- The new theme is blatantly chosen because it's the cheapest option

- The new ride is not the existing ride people already like that would require adding effects

I know I'm biased, but I don't think it's unreasonable to come to the conclusion this won't be a money-spending extravaganza with ideal results.
THIS.jpeg
 

doctornick

Well-Known Member
- Disney recently rethemed one of the most iconic attractions on Earth while bloviating about how important their replacement is and it was a clear downgrade

- They don't maintain the ride that's already there

- The new theme is blatantly chosen because it's the cheapest option

- The new ride is not the existing ride people already like that would require adding effects

I know I'm biased, but I don't think it's unreasonable to come to the conclusion this won't be a money-spending extravaganza with ideal results.

The one consoling factor to me in this regard is that it seems like the entire push for Tiana was all about the IP (both getting rid and putting in) and not really the point of "we can do better than what is there".

I realize this seems to be a superficially similar situation but the premise is more that of "let's make Dinosaur as popular as IJA is" and so I do think there will be a drive to make the DAK ride similar in quality to DL even if it is somewhat different execution.
 

celluloid

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The one consoling factor to me in this regard is that it seems like the entire push for Tiana was all about the IP (both getting rid and putting in) and not really the point of "we can do better than what is there".

I realize this seems to be a superficially similar situation but the premise is more that of "let's make Dinosaur as popular as IJA is" and so I do think there will be a drive to make the DAK ride similar in quality to DL even if it is somewhat different execution.

The Executive leadership is the same mentality "Let's go very relevant" They thought Indy 5 was going to be the revival Star Wars had, albeit even on a smaller scale to continue a rebirth on Disney Plus. It wasn't for varying reasons. The ride would have premiered near a sixth installment of the world theatrically and or television home viewing. Things were approved to be big dreams and announced before its box office folly, and the budget and angle has shifted a bit since.
 

Orange is the new Red

Well-Known Member
I would argue that several things on there are objectively worse than before, e.g. the stiff, unblinking "critters" in the center of scenes.

But regardless, it's gotten divisive reception and that's absolutely not what they are/should be aiming for.
if we are being fair a lot of the devicive receptions are related to a lot of peoples personal bias. It’s an us problem, not a Disney problem imo. Kids seem to love Tiana it’s the adults who seem to not be able to handle it.
 

KDM31091

Well-Known Member
- Disney recently rethemed one of the most iconic attractions on Earth while bloviating about how important their replacement is and it was a clear downgrade

- They don't maintain the ride that's already there

- The new theme is blatantly chosen because it's the cheapest option

- The new ride is not the existing ride people already like that would require adding effects

I know I'm biased, but I don't think it's unreasonable to come to the conclusion this won't be a money-spending extravaganza with ideal results.
Yes. I’d love to be wrong but I’d seriously plan for a budget conscious and underwhelming result.
 

britain

Well-Known Member
A good portion of the original ride is just "look at views of large room". At various points you can crane your neck around and still see a scene you were in two scenes ago. Like the Graveyard in HM, it's what makes it more than a set of sets. It's a PLACE.

It's going to be a real challenge to compensate for losing that room. It "could" be done, but I don't know if their heart is really into it.
 

WaltsTreasureChest

Well-Known Member
Even if the new ride turns out to be a direct copy of the current Indy ride at Disneyland with its state, I think many people would still be pleased. Dinosaur doesn’t have the online fanbase that Splash has, and I say that as a fan of "Dinosaur." While it's a loss for those who love Dino, I'm not upset about Indy taking its place. I'm glad they plan to create a unique story for Indy; which is a step in the right direction, especially since it would be easy to be lazy and simply replicate existing attractions like they have with ratatouille and tron. I’m still in the camp of expanding rather than replacing too but redoing dinoland entirely is something that is quite needed as how dead the area and atmosphere is.
 

celluloid

Well-Known Member
I don’t think it will be as much of a disappointment considering dinosaur isn’t as beloved as splash. Would I have put the Indy ride in Hollywood studios and left Dino alone? Absolutely.

Even if the new ride turns out to be a direct copy of the current Indy ride at Disneyland with its state, I think many people would still be pleased. Dinosaur doesn’t have the online fanbase that Splash has, and I say that as a fan of "Dinosaur." While it's a loss for those who love Dino, I'm not upset about Indy taking its place. I'm glad they plan to create a unique story for Indy; which is a step in the right direction, especially since it would be easy to be lazy and simply replicate existing attractions like they have with ratatouille and tron. I’m still in the camp of expanding rather than replacing too but redoing dinoland entirely is something that is quite needed as how dead the area and atmosphere is.
This is true, but this being on the scale and scope of other IJA is not likely, as mentioned with the status quo of effort of rethemes.
It is separate from the discussion on is it theme appropriate and the revamp needed due to neglect or lack of interest.

Most will find that recent rethemes have been forced to fit as well. Another one of the common sings against Tiana.
 
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