James Alucobond
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That implies subtlety. When you just straight up say it, it’s more a klaxon.
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DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom
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Starship824
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- In the Parks
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Spider-Man was so obviously the exception to this rule. Please stop trying to spin this false narrative that Encanto is a flop when in every metric aside from box office it was a massive success. You don't have to like it but to try to make these convoluted arguments that it was a flop is just weird.
Stupid Walt making Saludos Amigos and The Three Caballeros and cramming Latin American foreign culture down the throat of pure-blooded Mericans. The corporation did it again!!!!
sedati
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The Watchmen was the illusion of fantastic. I have never seen a promising show fall so completely apart by the end since... Lost.
None of the problems were with diversity. They all fall onto Damon Lindelof who I am consistently shocked still finds work.
Professortango1
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I'd throw in Wanda/Vision and Game of Thrones. Luckily, I avoided Lost until after the ending, so I just skipped it all together.
Brer Panther
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I mean, for movie studios, isn't how much money a film makes at the box office the only thing that makes it a success in their eyes?
Starship824
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- In the Parks
- No
Yes, and it probably made all that back in merchandising and music and Disney plus ad revenue.
Gusey
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It's always been more than just box office. Merch sales, streaming numbers on Disney+, awards, and especially with Encanto, the performance on the billboard charts/music downloads.
Encanto has also made $13M in DVD/Bluray sales. It's also Video on Demand with a cost to 'rent' or 'buy' on a whole bunch of streaming services.
D+ brings in billions of dollars per year in subscription fees. The minutes watch accrues to Encanto and D+ pays DAS for the use of Encanto. So, on DAS's books, Encanto's revenues are much more than the theatrical Box Office take.
Encanto has surely made an overall profit buy now.
Sure, Disney doesn't have bragging rights for a blockbuster Box Office, but they have something more important to a corporation: profit.
Also, Disney knows that Encanto's underperformance was their own fault by cutting short its theatrical run and announcing when it will be on D+. That was part of the frenzy of streamers fighting over the number of subscriptions. Encanto's theatrical take was sacrificed to boost D+ numbers. So, it would be odd for anyone at Disney to hold that against Encanto for not having a blockbuster Box Office.
D+ brings in billions of dollars per year in subscription fees. The minutes watch accrues to Encanto and D+ pays DAS for the use of Encanto. So, on DAS's books, Encanto's revenues are much more than the theatrical Box Office take.
Encanto has surely made an overall profit buy now.
Sure, Disney doesn't have bragging rights for a blockbuster Box Office, but they have something more important to a corporation: profit.
Also, Disney knows that Encanto's underperformance was their own fault by cutting short its theatrical run and announcing when it will be on D+. That was part of the frenzy of streamers fighting over the number of subscriptions. Encanto's theatrical take was sacrificed to boost D+ numbers. So, it would be odd for anyone at Disney to hold that against Encanto for not having a blockbuster Box Office.
Mike S
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Disney+ only just started making money last month and it’s likely that’s because Hulu is now lumped in.
Disney’s streaming business turned a profit for the first time
Disney Plus didn’t add many subscribers, though.
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Pi on my Cake
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- In the Parks
- Yes
I'd also add that Encanto even with its lower box office made more than any Muppets movie ever has even adjusting for inflation and its not even close. Box Office (especially post pandemic) does not tell the whole story
Timothy_Q
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Merch is way more important long term than box office
Disney has a history of movies that opened to mild or bad numbers and went on to still sell merch 50 years later
Something that almost only Disney manages to do
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999th Happy Haunt
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Not from Disney at least
DisCOT_97
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This is the most puzzling thing about this whole retheme. The recent movie flopped big time and wasn’t well received. Isn’t Disney all about metrics with their ride choices. What exactly makes them believe that Indy will sell more merch than dinosaurs (which will always have some appeal)? The IP is practically irrelevant with people under 30.
sedati
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Tastes vary. I put WandaVision and Game of Thrones very high on a list of all time greats.
To me, Watchmen and Lost are something different altogether. There's not sticking a landing and then there's heading out without ever knowing where you're going and simply downing the plane.
Sorcerer Mickey
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As Hocus Pocus and Nightmare Before Christmas make the company a bajillion dollars every year around this time through Not So Spooky and Spirit Halloween.