DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

[rd805]

I've never been on Indiana Jones. Do we have reason to believe all the stuff people say makes it better will be added here?

Because it sounds like some pretty large effects that would take a ton of construction (a whole other level?) and it already sounds like what they're building has a different plot than that ride.

both rides are great.
Indy is definitely superior --but that has a lot to do with the temple being multi-levelled, and just a better IP.

Dinosaur is a wonderful ride, and has served a purpose since Day 1 AK -- but Indy will give AK a ton of life & make lines a little longer for this specific attraction. PLUS - a better queue, better themed area. This will be an upgrade.

 

[Brer Panther]

I'm a bit offended by all of the "Who cared about Dinosaur until now?" people here. Dinosaur is a magnificent attraction and I have ALWAYS thought so, as have my siblings, parents, friends. I'm not afraid of roller coasters, but I thought @WorldExplorer described my feelings about it to a tee in this post.
As for what is replacing it, I've laid out many times here that I don't see how it could possibly be as good as what is there, but especially because of what it is replacing. Talk about expectations...people better temper those right now. Better to be impressed by something that exceeds your tiny expectations than to be disappointed greatly in something that doesn't measure up to what was there before (or what's across the continent at Disneyland).

Do we have any reason to believe, based on their recent efforts, this will be an improvement?

Yes. This. Thank you.

Indy will give AK a ton of life & make lines a little longer for this specific attraction.

Is Indiana Jones really that much more popular than dinosaurs are? The most recent film flopped.

 

[Rosso11]

Is Indiana Jones really that much more popular than dinosaurs are? The most recent film flopped.

Yes he is. One film doesn’t take away from his iconic status.

 

[Rhinocerous]

I dont know about Remy but Universal used Dolby 3D type where the frequency of the colors are changed and the glasses change them back. Unlike polarized 3D this type has fewer cross talk issues and since you're recieving 100% of the light (just shifted) it's also much brighter and sharper. You can tell by looking at the glasses which is used (D3D glasses have a reflective surface and if you look around with them one eye at a time normal stuff has weird color changes. Polorize has grey lenses, and generally reduce light by 50%) The main reason why polarized is still used in theaters is D3D type glasses can be very expensive (I've heard as much as $35 each) Its why they have RFID chips in them that sound an alarm if someone tries to walk out with one

My former employer, a major media company, built a large screening room with dual laser projectors for Dolby 3D and bought over a hundred glasses. They held exactly one test screening, and never again. Most of the boxes of glasses were never even opened.

 

[Moth]

Yes he is. One film doesn’t take away from his iconic status.

Yes but kids are constantly getting into and living dinosaurs, if the recent attempt to introduce the Indiana Jones character to younger audiences failed, what does that mean? Prior to last year, the last Indy film was in 2007, someone who's 21 now was 4 then.

Is Indy a reliable bet? Obviously analytics and pen pushers said Dinosaur should go extinct, but with those below 21, is Indiana Jones really that iconic as he was for generations prior?


Or is it another classic Iger during his 2nd retirement tour "ripping something out done under Eisner and putting an IP from one of his acquisitions there instead"?

 

[Rosso11]

Yes but kids are constantly getting into and living dinosaurs, if the recent attempt to introduce the Indiana Jones character to younger audiences failed, what does that mean? Prior to last year, the last Indy film was in 2007, someone who's 21 now was 4 then.

Is Indy a reliable bet? Obviously analytics and pen pushers said Dinosaur should go extinct, but with those below 21, is Indiana Jones really that iconic as he was for generations prior?


Or is it another classic Iger during his 2nd retirement tour "ripping something out done under Eisner and putting an IP from one of his acquisitions there instead"?

Indiana Jones has been a part of Disney Parks for 35 years now thanks to Eisner. So no I do not think Indiana Jones is going into AK to spite Eisner. Is Indiana Jones as popular with the youngest crowd? No probably not. Does he have to be? Should we rip out Tower of Terror because the Twilight Zone’s prime was 60 years ago? Was it a mistake to even open it in 1994 when the property’s prime was already over 30 years old?

Indy is iconic and there will be a lot more Indy in our future with or without Harrison Ford. Do I wish this land could have been made as an expansion instead of a replacement? Of course I do. But the fact is Disney has failed with all of their Dinosaur movies over the years and Dinoland USA needed a major revamp. Does that mean Dinosaurs aren’t popular? Of course not. But when it comes to Disney, Indy is more popular. Unfortunately today’s younger generations equates Dinosaurs with Jurassic Park. Yes it depresses me, but that’s how it is.

 

[Sorcerer Mickey]

Indiana Jones has been a part of Disney Parks for 35 years now thanks to Eisner. So no I do not think Indiana Jones is going into AK to spite Eisner. Is Indiana Jones as popular with the youngest crowd? No probably not. Does he have to be? Should we rip out Tower of Terror because the Twilight Zone’s prime was 60 years ago? Was it a mistake to even open it in 1994 when the property’s prime was already over 30 years old?

Indy is iconic and there will be a lot more Indy in our future with or without Harrison Ford. Do I wish this land could have been made as an expansion instead of a replacement? Of course I do. But the fact is Disney has failed with all of their Dinosaur movies over the years and Dinoland USA needed a major revamp. Does that mean Dinosaurs aren’t popular? Of course not. But when it comes to Disney, Indy is more popular. Unfortunately today’s younger generations equates Dinosaurs with Jurassic Park. Yes it depresses me, but that’s how it is.

Twilight Zone is an old, old property but the concept is timeless - a mysterious world "in between" where odd things happen. You can easily modernize this.

Indiana Jones is Harrison Ford, an 80+-year-old man. There's no way around it.

 

[DisneyHead123]

Indiana Jones is Harrison Ford, an 80+-year-old man. There's no way around it.

I do think there is a deeply archetypal element to Indy that helps with modern day relevance. Even if people are not attached to Ford in particular, he could almost be a stand-in for the idea of “explorer”.

I will say I’m not entirely sure if Indiana Jones really fits the theme of AK. But quite frankly after hearing that ROA is being ripped out to add cartoon cars, my bar is lowered, lol. I’m just glad that the ride will be contained within a building and isn’t a Tarzan spinner or cartoon animal land at this point.

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

I think the easy answer to the “is Indy right?” question is that we already have proof that it’s an attractive name. The DL attraction is always busy.

That being said, I don’t think DINOSAUR is unpopular in that people who ride it don’t like it. I think what hurts it is where it is. It’s in the back of a land that doesn’t get a ton of foot traffic to begin with, and it’s entrance is fairly poorly placed in the way that it doesn’t really attract you to it. It takes some walking and looking to see it.

Tropical Americas will be a much more enticing spot for people to walk through and will have two other attractions (one being another E or D ticket) that beckons people to actually come in. If they make the entrance to Indy more noticeable than DINO’s, I’ve little doubt it’ll maintain consistent waits and popularity.

I think DINOSAUR would too if it was in a better land. It’s location could be better, but I think DINOSAUR was killed ultimately by the land it resides in.

 

[BrianLo]

I experienced Dino without knowledge of Indy as well, in a more original form. But am not really a fan.

There’s just some core executional problems I have with the ride. The lack of soundtrack, ride profile disorientation and the current lighting package.

I liken it to Sindbad pre-revision. All the pieces are there and I fault absolutely no one for liking it, but there’s clearly a much, much better ride hiding under the surface they failed to crack. Or Gringotts, though that one needs some more foundational changes than a soundtrack and better lighting.

Nothing changes that it’s clearly an E ticket with many wonderful features. But we cannot deny it’s really, really underperforming for what should clearly be a top tier ride at all of WDW, but fails to crack GSAT top thirties (fifty?). Something is fundamentally not clicking for the average guest. I don’t blame anyone for being upset they didn’t try and at least fix what was there.

 

[JD80]

In my opinion and my families we never liked Dino at all. Pretty empty ride, the ride vehicle was too jerky. Etc. etc.

Our fam is excited to see it go.

edit: I'll leave the typo because it's funny, but I only have one family

 

[MLevell]

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - $786,635,413 - 2nd Highest Grossing Film of 2008

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - $474,171,806 - 1st Highest Grossing Film of 1989

Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny - $383,963,057 - 16th Highest Grossing Film of 2023

(Indiana Jones and the) Raiders of the Lost Ark -$367,451,914 - 1st Highest Grossing Film of 1981

Dinosaur - $356,148,063 - 5th Highest Grossing Film of 2000

Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom - $333,080,271 - 1st Highest Grossing Film of 1984

Encanto - $231,154,990 - 16th Highest Grossing Film of 2021

 

[Quietmouse]

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - $786,635,413 - 2nd Highest Grossing Film of 2008

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - $474,171,806 - 1st Highest Grossing Film of 1989

Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny - $383,963,057 - 16th Highest Grossing Film of 2023

(Indiana Jones and the) Raiders of the Lost Ark -$367,451,914 - 1st Highest Grossing Film of 1981

Dinosaur - $356,148,063 - 5th Highest Grossing Film of 2000

Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom - $333,080,271 - 1st Highest Grossing Film of 1984

Encanto - $231,154,990 - 16th Highest Grossing Film of 2021

Was anyone going to the theaters in 2021 with COVID scares floating around ?

 

[rd805]

Hopefully they change the name to South America, to go with the continents theming they have with Africa and Asia. Plus I really dislike the name Tropical America. It doesn't clearly say what it is and it sounds like a generic, lame name.

Tropical America's allows them to include a broader range of destinations from Central America, even Mexico, and all of South America. (perhaps even some island feels like in the Caribbean). I honestly don't hate the name 'Tropical Americas', it serves a purpose here.

 

[MLevell]

Was anyone going to the theaters in 2021 with COVID scares floating around ?

The current 7th Highest Grossing Film of All Time, Spider-Man: No Way Home, came out three weeks after Encanto, so while 2021 was certainly an odd year for film going, when people really wanted to go... they went.

 

[MisterPenguin]

...Encanto - $231,154,990 - 16th Highest Grossing Film of 2021

I can't stand Encanto. The songs suck from it and the characters move around too much. Just like in the other terrible movie Turning Red.

Oscar for Best Animated Feature.

Grammy Awards

Best Score Soundtrack,​

Best Compilation Soundtrack,​

and Best Song ("We Don't Talk About Bruno")​

Billboard 200

Top album for 9 weeks​

Bruno: Top 100 for 5 weeks​

Several of the other songs in the top 100 for over two months​

29 Billion minutes streamed on D+ (and that's counting only when it was in the top ten list)

And of course it is missing a major villain and a love interest for the main character.

And that's why Mary Poppins is one of the worst movies... ever!

 

[Rosso11]

We're living in a time where bad tv shows (the Watchmen and Lovecraft Country) and bad movies (Soul) win awards because of diversity.

Now explain how the 29 billion minutes streamed is due to diversity.

 

[MLevell]

I meant my post to be a lightly humorous point about how there can sometimes be a disconnect between what feels like a hit or failure and their actual box office performance. And now if feels like I accidentally provided fuel for some posters that lean a little uh... Song of The South-y.

 

[Professortango1]

We're living in a time where bad tv shows (the Watchmen and Lovecraft Country) and bad movies (Soul) win awards because of diversity.

The Watchmen was fantastic! Lovecraft Country was definitely uneven, but the book isn't that great either. I will say that Turning Red was one of Pixar's best in recent years. As for Encanto, the music is catchy but the lyrics are pretty bad and the movie's plot is a bit clunky. The main character is the reason why the movie is watchable for me, but nowhere near a Moana or Tangled in terms of recent Disney animated films.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I was hoping for racist dog whistles in here. It had been a few days.