DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[lazyboy97o]

THat's because all of those are built into the other parks. Magic Kindgom for example has the Utilidoors and the offices over Main Street USA. Epcot has their own tunnel but also has lots of spaces dispersed throughout the park. Most of the country pavilions have second floor offices and warehouse space behind the pavilions for example and the building wings on either side of the park entry gates are also office space. Unfortunately with Animal Kingdom I've never been back stage so I can't speak to that. Ok so with regards to Hollywood Studios, That park is unique in that it was originally built as a Working sound stage with the theme park being secondary. As part of this it was built quite fast and thus most of the office space is back stage and built with adaptability in mind. The downside to this is Hollywood Studios today is being forced to redevelop a lot of backstage offices and other necessary structures to allow for the park expansion.

A lot of those spaces weren’t really designed but filled in over time. But that sort layering is what should be done and can be done with new projects. Some great recent examples are entertainment having rehearsal and office space above the maintenance facilities for Hagrid’s or the offices integrated into Mickey and Minnie’s Runaway Railway at Disneyland. Parks having to redevelop backstage facilities is nothing new because they are often an over site as money is focused on guest areas.

But, Disney’s Hollywood Studios also clearly has excess office space as evidenced by the Twitter escapades of an employee who works there but isn’t actually doing anything related to the park. That office space includes work that absolutely could be done in another location.

 

[bwr827]

It means guests are willing to wait 10 minutes to experience the attraction, currently. And willing to wait 9 times as much (90 minutes) for the Tower of Terror attraction. Tower of Terror is a shorter experience but with higher capacity per hour, so makes the 90 minute vs. 10 minute difference even more significant (people willing to wait longer on a ride that moved through people quicker and is ultimately a shorter-lived experience)

Im not a Muppets die-hard, but feels like a better fit for a smaller theater. If it doesn’t have as much mass appeal, it at least remains available for a more niche crowd that still wants to enjoy it

Plus it would land even better in a smaller space, provided they invest in the physical effects to provide the full show.

Conan O’Brien talks about a concept called “comedy compression” referring to the energy of a live audience in a smaller space.

 

[roj2323]

A lot of those spaces weren’t really designed but filled in over time. But that sort layering is what should be done and can be done with new projects. Some great recent examples are entertainment having rehearsal and office space above the maintenance facilities for Hagrid’s or the offices integrated into Mickey and Minnie’s Runaway Railway at Disneyland. Parks having to redevelop backstage facilities is nothing new because they are often an over site as money is focused on guest areas.

But, Disney’s Hollywood Studios also clearly has excess office space as evidenced by the Twitter escapades of an employee who works there but isn’t actually doing anything related to the park. That office space includes work that absolutely could be done in another location.

Speaking of Runaway Railway, Hollywood Studios actually has a second floor break room for costumed characters. I used it often as a Custodian as there's daily large bathrooms and a water fountain that's ice cold. From what I remember (I haven't worked there in 10 or so years) it's just under 2,000sq ft. It really was one of the nicer perks of working the Chinese theater trash / bathroom zones. Provided you asked nicely the costumed character team was cool about letting you take your breaks in there. There's also lockers downstairs where I kept Gatorade powder, my rain gear, and spare socks. That whole ride building actually has a lot of hidden spaces partially due to the irregular space. Basically if it made a triangle they turned it into storage space.

 

[YodaMan]

I wonder if wires got crossed on the Triceratops Spin thing. Perhaps it was intended to replace MV3D if the Monsters coaster building is built behind Mama Melrose?

As is, there's not enough clearance for TS and circulation paths back in the Muppets Courtyard. Even if you demo Stage 1, there's not enough. The only way you could squeeze it in would be to heavily modify/remove Mama Melrose or in place of MV3D's theater.

Regardless, if Monsters does come to AC, a re-skinned Triceratops Spin seems like a great 2nd attraction to help fill out the land along with a playground.

Maybe I’m being obtuse, but isn’t there enough space in the small parking lot by the exit of the show? It’s been mentioned a few times as an Armchair Imagineer idea. The last of the Streets of America facades back there are almost completely demolished and if they move those few backstage parking spaces they could comfortably fit Triceratops Spin.

It used to have an outdoor extended queue - I’m not sure if it still exists.

It does still exist. It’s not often used for Muppets (demand would have to exceed the capacity of about 550 guests every 17.5 minutes), but Rise of the Resistance will use it as additional space as well (often at opening or when reopening from a downtime when they have a large surge of guests).

It means guests are willing to wait 10 minutes to experience the attraction, currently. And willing to wait 9 times as much (90 minutes) for the Tower of Terror attraction. Tower of Terror is a shorter experience but with higher capacity per hour, so makes the 90 minute vs. 10 minute difference even more significant (people willing to wait longer on a ride that moved through people quicker and is ultimately a shorter-lived experience)

Im not a Muppets die-hard, but feels like a better fit for a smaller theater. If it doesn’t have as much mass appeal, it at least remains available for a more niche crowd that still wants to enjoy it

I still think you’re underestimating the demand that Muppets meets. MV3D can churn through about 550 guests every 17.5 minutes. The Mickey Shorts Theater holds less than half of that. Throughout the entire afternoon the demand for MV3D exceeds the capacity that Mickey Shorts Theater would offer while offering almost no queue space. Moving it to a smaller venue wouldn’t solve every problem.

 

[FigmentJedi]

Out of curiosity, what is the stance on Futurama here?

Well, my crappy Dreamfinder impression is the same as my crappy Professor Farnsworth one.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Well, my crappy Dreamfinder impression is the same as my crappy Professor Farnsworth one.

“Good news everyone! I’ve discovered the Figment of imagination.”

 

[Streetway]

“Good news everyone! I’ve discovered the Figment of imagination.”

“I’ll build my own journey into imagination! With blackjack, and hookers! In fact, forget the journey into imagination!”

 

[Coaster Lover]

Out of curiosity, what is the stance on Futurama here?

Slurm would sell better than the blue milk... there, I said it!

 

[James Alucobond]

“Good news everyone! I’ve discovered the Figment of imagination.”

Just make the ride a series of What-If Machine vignettes. Finglongers in the gift shop.

 

[doctornick]

Maybe I’m being obtuse, but isn’t there enough space in the small parking lot by the exit of the show? It’s been mentioned a few times as an Armchair Imagineer idea. The last of the Streets of America facades back there are almost completely demolished and if they move those few backstage parking spaces they could comfortably fit Triceratops Spin.

You are talking about this area in red, correct:

You are certainly correct that that area could easily fit a spinner, but I'm not sure it would be an ideal space as it would pretty much have to be a dead end and you'd also have to spend money sprucing up the views in the area.

From a logistics standpoint, it would make more sense if the main Muppets store was closed/demolished and they put a spinner there (blue area) and built a new store in the area in red. But that's way too much effort for such a small gain I would think.

 

[DarkMetroid567]

You are talking about this area in red, correct:

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You are certainly correct that that area could easily fit a spinner, but I'm not sure it would be an ideal space as it would pretty much have to be a dead end and you'd also have to spend money sprucing up the views in the area.

From a logistics standpoint, it would make more sense if the main Muppets store was closed/demolished and they put a spinner there (blue area) and built a new store in the area in red. But that's way too much effort for such a small gain I would think.

I’m sure Rise fares much better than it used to, but I recall that parking lot as the “ride broke down and we’re kicking you out of the queue” spot.

 

[marni1971]

Hopefully we find out soon so we can finally put this to bed. @marni1971 even alluded to an announcement tomorrow.

I did ?

 

[Advisable Joseph]

I did ?

You made a joke about the sun rising tomorrow when someone asked:

So: what does everyone think is going to happen?

The sun will rise tomorrow.

People have been taking that to be a hint.

 

[V_L_Raptor]

You made a joke about the sun rising tomorrow when someone asked:




People have been taking that to be a hint.

I would hope the sun is expected to rise every morning…?

 

[bwr827]

I would hope the sun is expected to rise every morning…?

We’re getting exciting news every day?!

 

[marni1971]

You made a joke about the sun rising tomorrow when someone asked:




People have been taking that to be a hint.

Aha. No hint intended

 

[Surferboy567]

I did ?

Aha. No hint intended

Yep, I took your comment about the sun rising tomorrow as an actual hint. I read a little too much into it. Sorry about that

Like I said before though, we will likely know soon anyways at least by the end of the month as @wdwmagic mentioned.

 

[bmr1591]

Think of it this way, if there is really not set on where it is going yet, how can it be so close to opening on Disney's timeline within the next three to four years? This thing is ages away if that is the case.

Not necessarily. You could have working plans for both plots and only need a final decision to advance work.

 

[Dranth]

Well Disney was more like a park setting and had a lot more trees back in the day that helped

90 vs 95 isn’t going to feel any different with the same humidity levels

The higher the humidity, the more each degree matters.

For example, if you have a day with 60% humidity (the average in the afternoon for Orlando in August) and…

• 80° F, the real feel will be around 82°
• 85° F, the real feel will be around 90°
• 90° F, the real feel will be around 100°
• 95° F, the real feel will be around 114°

So, in your example, going from 90 to 95 will increase the temperature by 14° F. In no world is that nothing. In an area with 40% humidity that same jump from 90 to 95 would only feel 8° F warmer.

This is what everyone who wants to keep saying it’s only a few degrees keep missing, those few degrees can make a huge difference and the higher the humidity, the larger that difference gets.

 

[Big_Shakalaka]

The sun will rise tomorrow.

This unfortunately came true.