Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

BrianLo

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So what sequels will we be seeing before then? Toy Story 5 is on the schedule. I believe Nemo and incredibles have been mentioned. The way they’re pushing Coco, I have to think they’ll try and milk that franchise. Monsters seems obvious. Do little gems like Rat and WALL-E stay as one offs? I’d kind of like it if they tried sequels to some less likely candidates - how about A Bugs Life 2? Or Luca 2? If we’re stuck in the sequel rut, let’s get weird with it.

I still assume there will be original fare. The ratio will probably re-worsen, but you have to make new things to turn into sequels.

Incredibles 3 and Coco 2 would be my highest bets. Followed by Elemental 2, actually.

Bugs life has been left behind. Maybe Luca?
 

Farerb

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I still assume there will be original fare. The ratio will probably re-worsen, but you have to make new things to turn into sequels.

Incredibles 3 and Coco 2 would be my highest bets. Followed by Elemental 2, actually.

Bugs life has been left behind. Maybe Luca?
I can see sequels to Coco, Luca, Turning Red and Elemental. I don't think Incredibles 3 will happen that soon, as long as Brad Bird still works on Ray Gunn for Skydance.
 

BrianLo

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I’ve been amazed by the success of the live-action remakes, all of which seem pretty useless (Cinderella and Maleficent were OK, haven’t seen Cruella) so I’m not sure I trust my own judgement. I can see a slight underperformance… but I can also see an inexplicably huge blockbuster performance. We’ll have to see how the box office performs before then - for the last month, it’s seemed almost pre-pandemic normal (except for the low number of releases).

I’m also thinking of Alice through the looking glass as a comp for how it could miss. I really don’t know with this one. If it makes 900 million I wouldn’t be surprised and if it makes 300 I also wouldn’t be.
 

BrianLo

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I don’t think I saw this earlier.


Brazil joined the gang on Thursday with $3.2M, giving the movie a No. 1 launch that is the biggest opening day of all time for an animated title and the 5th highest for any film ever. It’s also tops overall for the year so far.

China less grand, but also not working with much to begin with

Meanwhile, China opened today with an estimated $2.6M (not included in the totals above). This portends a weekend in the $10M range. IO2 has a 9.5 audience score from Maoyan (which is the best for any Hollywood movie so far this year, and above the 9.0 score of the original). The sequel is expected ultimately to best the first film’s final of $15.3M


I think we can add the collapse of Hollywood in China to the list of problems with the current state of the box office. I think China last decade was largely distracting from underlying weakness in the theatrical landscape by still promising Hollywood they were in a growing industry landscape.

Not that this is bad compared to its progenitor, but China was giving us 200 million results on Zootopias and Cocos not long ago. I think one of the problems was betting on the wrong markets. China is a long play, India was clearly a mistake (it’s way too early for that market).

I’ve said several times, but if I had revisionist power over the companies decision making, the market to play into was in fact South Korea.
 

The Mom

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I'm not sure how the thread went from discussing the Disney box office to an argument about news sources, preferred pronouns, and intersex people and tossing insults and snarky remarks back and forth, but anyone who cannot remain on topic, and/or respond civilly without personal attacks will not be allowed to continue posting.
 

brideck

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OK, box office. Are we still betting against Mufasa? I was pretty sure it would underperform, but I’m increasingly less convinced…

I still have trouble fathoming what a Barry Jenkins work-for-hire movie will be like, much less one that's 100% CG. It's just a baffling pairing. I would never want to doubt the man, but we're talking a need for mass appeal here. I think Sonic 3 wins that weekend and the holidays in general.
 

brideck

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Do I have the rest of the 2024 slate right?

Jun 28 - Kinds of Kindness (Searchlight)
Jul 26 - Deadpool & Wolverine (20th)
Aug 16 - Alien: Romulus (20th)
Oct 18 - A Real Pain (Searchlight)
Nov 27 - Moana 2
Dec 6 - Nightb***h (Searchlight)
Dec 20 - Mufasa: The Lion King

I know the reasons for it, but it is shocking just how empty the summer release calendar feels. It's enough to make even me miss the MCU. Well... not quite that bad.
 

Minnesota disney fan

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I'm not sure how the thread went from discussing the Disney box office to an argument about news sources, preferred pronouns, and intersex people and tossing insults and snarky remarks back and forth, but anyone who cannot remain on topic, and/or respond civilly without personal attacks will not be allowed to continue posting.
Thank You, The Mom. It was getting to be tiring!
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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I don’t think I saw this earlier.


Brazil joined the gang on Thursday with $3.2M, giving the movie a No. 1 launch that is the biggest opening day of all time for an animated title and the 5th highest for any film ever. It’s also tops overall for the year so far.

China less grand, but also not working with much to begin with

Meanwhile, China opened today with an estimated $2.6M (not included in the totals above). This portends a weekend in the $10M range. IO2 has a 9.5 audience score from Maoyan (which is the best for any Hollywood movie so far this year, and above the 9.0 score of the original). The sequel is expected ultimately to best the first film’s final of $15.3M


I think we can add the collapse of Hollywood in China to the list of problems with the current state of the box office. I think China last decade was largely distracting from underlying weakness in the theatrical landscape by still promising Hollywood they were in a growing industry landscape.

Not that this is bad compared to its progenitor, but China was giving us 200 million results on Zootopias and Cocos not long ago. I think one of the problems was betting on the wrong markets. China is a long play, India was clearly a mistake (it’s way too early for that market).

I’ve said several times, but if I had revisionist power over the companies decision making, the market to play into was in fact South Korea.
This is doing so much better than I thought it would, I predicted it might get to $500 million but thought that would be a huge success in the struggling theater business.
 

Tony the Tigger

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Do I have the rest of the 2024 slate right?

Jun 28 - Kinds of Kindness (Searchlight)
Jul 26 - Deadpool & Wolverine (20th)
Aug 16 - Alien: Romulus (20th)
Oct 18 - A Real Pain (Searchlight)
Nov 27 - Moana 2
Dec 6 - Nightb***h (Searchlight)
Dec 20 - Mufasa: The Lion King

I know the reasons for it, but it is shocking just how empty the summer release calendar feels. It's enough to make even me miss the MCU. Well... not quite that bad.
I think the only one I’m into is Deadpool.
 

TP2000

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Bugs life has been left behind.

I saw Bug's Life in the early 00's, the waning days of going to Blockbuster to rent a movie for my nephews to watch, and I distinctly remember thinking "Geez, this movie is dumb." A year or so later, DCA opened A Bug's Land in a panic over their failing theme park, and I had the same feeling as watching the movie when riding Heimlich's Chew Chew Train. 🤣

Meanwhile, China opened today with an estimated $2.6M (not included in the totals above). This portends a weekend in the $10M range. IO2 has a 9.5 audience score from Maoyan (which is the best for any Hollywood movie so far this year, and above the 9.0 score of the original). The sequel is expected ultimately to best the first film’s final of $15.3M

I think we can add the collapse of Hollywood in China to the list of problems with the current state of the box office.

I'd love for the Smart Set in Burbank to explain to us why Communist China got two new theme park resorts built there in the past 20 years. If the movies from Burbank aren't able to be screened in China, or get very little play if they do make it past the Communist censors, then what the heck was the point of spending Billions and Billions on theme parks there? 🤔
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I'd love for the Smart Set in Burbank to explain to us why Communist China got two new theme park resorts built there in the past 20 years. If the movies from Burbank aren't able to be screened in China, or get very little play if they do make it past the Communist censors, then what the heck was the point of spending Billions and Billions on theme parks there? 🤔
I'll give you 899M reasons, its a very large consumer base of 899M people who's money spends just as well as anyone spending the greenback. Its the reason why there were rumors at one point of Disney looking at India with their 473M consumers for their next international Park.
 

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