DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

[dreamfinding]

Pandora was closer to a billion.

You are way over estimated the costs of a building.

 

[Nickm2022]

I feel like they're treating Animal Kingdom like EPCOT in 2019 (before all of it was cut). Where instead of everything being budgeted separately (as it should be) it's a budget for any new expansion. Just like how the EPCOT overhaul was initially $1 billion (from my knowledge until it inflated massively), I feel like anything new coming to Animal Kingdom, ie Lion King, Tropical Americas, and Drone show, are all bundled apart of a $1 billion spendature and the money will move around depending on where its needed.

 

[SilentWindODoom]

I feel like the scuttlebutt was $100-200M

I had left this tab open and catching up forgot where the conversation was and misread this as the price of the animatronic at the start of Little Mermaid.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I had left this tab open and catching up forgot where the conversation was and misread this as the price of the animatronic at the start of Little Mermaid.

The Scuttles in the queue actually cost $1.2 billion.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

I know we never get accurate numbers, but Tiana’s had to be at least 10 million, probably more.

The plans early on were in the ballpark of $30-$40 million. As ridiculous as it may seem after seeing the finished product, what was built is apparently far more ambitious than those early plans. I think Frozen at Epcot cost around $70 million or so (though this number may include the new restroom and meet and greet building they built next door, plus they altered and extended the track slightly at the beginning which may have been costly). I don't know the exact budget for Tiana either, but I would assume probably at least $100 million. Though definitely far less than what it cost to build Cosmic Rewind ($500 million).

 

[dreamfinding]

The plans early on were in the ballpark of $30-$40 million. As ridiculous as it may seem after seeing the finished product, what was built is apparently far more ambitious than those early plans.

Part of me is trying to imagine what the 30 million version of the ride would be as opposed to the final product.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Part of me is trying to imagine what the 30 million version of the ride would be as opposed to the final product.

I'd assume even more hollowed out empty sets, this time with far less fake foliage, far more video screens of characters, probably no critters at all (maybe a couple of entirely static plastic 3D printed props) and a far tinier population of AA's. Probably of the face/eye projected variety. Or perhaps a 100% video based ride with no AA's at all and little to no physical scenery whatsoever...

My guess is that a significant amount of the budget went towards the purchase of the fake greenery and especially the small handful of A1000 animatronics. A1000's in particular are reportedly EXTREMELY expensive, so I could see them chewing through a lot of cash.

That said, I also wonder how much of the budget they blew on their "research" trips, consulting fees and similar.

 

[Rich Brownn]

I did not believe you, so I had to look it up. That is absolutely crazy! The movie felt like such a flop! Disney even closed a entire movie studio over the performance of Dinosaur!

One of my favorite things about Disneyland is that great little corner of Fantasyland with the Mad Tea Party next to Alice in Wonderland. I think it could work.

It didn't recoup its costs of production and marketing so it was technically a failure as it lost money

 

[bwr827]

I'd assume even more hollowed out empty sets, this time with far less fake foliage, far more video screens of characters, probably no critters at all (maybe a couple of entirely static plastic 3D printed props) and a far tinier population of AA's. Probably of the face/eye projected variety. Or perhaps a 100% video based ride with no AA's at all and little to no physical scenery whatsoever...

My guess is that a significant amount of the budget went towards the purchase of the fake greenery and especially the small handful of A1000 animatronics. A1000's in particular are reportedly EXTREMELY expensive, so I could see them chewing through a lot of cash.

That said, I also wonder how much of the budget they blew on their "research" trips, consulting fees and similar.

I wonder what extremely expensive means. Like $1M each?

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

I wonder what extremely expensive means. Like $1M each?

No idea, and i'd also like to know. Might be well above that amount. There are 14 of them from my count, that, $14 million seems kind of low if that's truly where all the money went (which it may not have been). And i'm sure they didn't all cost the same either, Louis in particular was probably pricier than Tiana and Mama Odie.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I wonder what extremely expensive means. Like $1M each?

It’s more than $1m each. Jumping Brer Rabbit was that much 30 years ago.

 

[dreamfinding]

No idea, and i'd also like to know. Might be well above that amount. There are 14 of them from my count, that, $14 million seems kind of low if that's truly where all the money went (which it may not have been). And i'm sure they didn't all cost the same either, Louis in particular was probably pricier than Tiana and Mama Odie.

I’d love to have a price comparison chart of a MMRR AA, Frozen Ever After Elsa AA, and a TBA Louis AA.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I’d love to have a price comparison chart of a MMRR AA, Frozen Ever After Elsa AA, and a TBA Louis AA.

We should demand receipts when Bob addresses the shareholders next year.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

It’s more than $1m each. Jumping Brer Rabbit was that much 30 years ago.

I was going to mention that, but I was never sure if the "million dollar rabbit" quote was literal about the actual associated cost.

 

[dreamfinding]

We should demand receipts when Bob addresses the shareholders next year.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I was going to mention that, but I was never sure if the "million dollar rabbit" quote was literal about the actual associated cost.

I’m sure it was close enough that we can be certain any advanced AA in 2024 is well above that. They built Everest for $100 million less than 20 years ago. It would cost quadruple that now.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

I’d love to have a price comparison chart of a MMRR AA, Frozen Ever After Elsa AA, and a TBA Louis AA.

I would hope MMRR's figures didn't cost obscene amounts. I don't even know if they'd qualify as AA's, they're largely just bobble heads with a face projection. Daisy is more of a genuine AA than the rest, and even her movements aren't particularly complex (and her eyes are again video).

Epcot's Frozen AA's would presumably cost far less up-front to build than an A1000. But from what the imagineers working on the Hong Kong version said, the maintenance costs on the faces were unexpectedly higher than physical faces. And supposedly negated any money that was initially saved at the beginning.

 

[dreamfinding]

the maintenance costs on the faces were unexpectedly higher than physical faces. And supposedly negated any money that was initially saved at the beginning.

I feel like this holds true for mostly anything. It’s better to invest upfront so you don’t have to shell out later for maintenance.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I’m sure it was close enough that we can be certain any advanced AA in 2024 is well above that. They built Everest for $100 million less than 20 years ago. It would cost quadruple that now.

They did spend that much and only have a metal box to show for it.

 

[FigmentFan82]

I'm still hearing that Encanto will float, FWIW. Earlier indications were omni, but this has been consistent for a while now.

Never heard of serious work on trackless for it.

Man, Mystic Manor was right there - a clone reskin that would be the perfect fit - current popular IP that involved a living house and magic!!!!

Disney really do be dumb.