DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

[MerlinTheGoat]

I was shocked by the mention of no rain in the rainforest? I swore the effects were working in all recent video I've seen of it. But now that I look, I realize I'm thinking of the effects in the first scene. What effect is missing in the rainforest?

It used to actually "rain" inside the rainforest scene. As in real water that would sprinkle down from above and hit the roof of the boats. That's why the boats are covered with a canopy. Though I couldn't tell you when this effect stopped working, a long time ago. Not even sure if it still worked at any point during the 2000s. Certainly not during the 2010s onward.

Another long lost effect was a sand storm projection on the back wall of the desert scene. Added some kinetic energy in what was intended to be an otherwise still scene lacking in wildlife. Also don't know when this effect went missing either. Sometime prior to 2010. It was still functional after the 1993 renovation at least. Looking through old 90s and 00s videos. Still worked in some of the ones from 2002-2003. Maybe started to go missing around 04 or 05. @marni1971 may know more about this effect and when it went missing.



Incidentally, a number of the the projected spotlight-based rain effects in the first scene have also been misaligned for ages. They're supposed to project onto wires to make it appear like rain is falling. But a number of these spotlights have become misaligned and the light is missing the wires, spoiling the effect. Pretty stupidly easy thing to fix too...

 

[eddie104]

Back on the topic of Tropical America’s I wonder what the budget is for this project?

 

[SilentWindODoom]

It used to actually rain. That’s why the boats have canopies.

It used to actually "rain" inside the rainforest scene. As in real water that would sprinkle down from above and hit the roof of the boats. That's why the boats are covered with a canopy. Though I couldn't tell you when this effect stopped working, a long time ago. Not even sure if it still worked at any point during the 2000s. Certainly not during the 2010s onward.

WOW!!! I knew about the original opening scene and lost song. I can't believe I never, ever, ever knew about this. It's impossible in the videos I've seen from the 80's to be able to see such an effect. I'd thought I'd be able to tell from the sound, but the waterfalls make it impossible to tell. How long was this effect in action? With all the figures within that scene, especially the monkeys, I'm shocked they'd run this, unless it was very close to the boat so that it didn't affect them.

Another long lost effect was a sand storm projection on the back wall of the desert scene. Added some kinetic energy in what was intended to be an otherwise still scene lacking in wildlife. Also don't know when this effect went missing either. Sometime prior to 2010. It was still functional after the 1993 renovation at least. Looking through old 90s and 00s videos. Still worked in some of the ones from 2002-2003. Maybe started to go missing around 04 or 05. @marni1971 may know more about this effect and when it went missing.



Incidentally, a number of the the projected spotlight-based rain effects in the first scene have also been misaligned for ages. They're supposed to project onto wires to make it appear like rain is falling. But a number of these spotlights have become misaligned and the light is missing the wires, spoiling the effect. Pretty stupidly easy thing to fix too...

Double wow. It's strange to see the fire going while the sandstorm seems so much more important. I figured the wind was to evoke the emptiness. Perhaps they're just getting each thing on-line when hey have time and money. If you hadn't said anything, I'd have assumed it was film imperfection on old videos.

 

[aladdin2007]

Wow, I never thought i'd see that effect again. It has been missing since 2014, a decade. What's going on over there that they suddenly started to show some care and attention to this attraction? Love to see it.

There's a pretty large damaged chunk of the wall touching the ceiling in the desert scene. If they haven't already fixed that, then it should be a priority. Most videos don't show it due to lighting and camera angles, but it's very noticeable in person. That ceiling there also needs cleaning and repainting as it's covered in mold.

I also can't remember the last time the doors to the greenhouse worked. Maybe close to when this fire effect stopped working.

And yeah last I checked the animal figures are still sluggish (some static) and need some love.

This, Im stunned, I had no idea that returned.....but that ending has got to get changed after 30 years. Modern day disney would just put black curtains across sadly.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

With all the figures within that scene, especially the monkeys, I'm shocked they'd run this, unless it was very close to the boat so that it didn't affect them.

I don't think the rain covered the entire scene, just the areas that already had water. The shore on the left side with the monkeys remained dry IIRC.

 

[Poseidon Quest]

Back on the topic of Tropical America’s I wonder what the budget is for this project?

Probably upwards of $1 billion, but the final result will feel more like $5

 

[MisterPenguin]

Back on the topic of Tropical America’s I wonder what the budget is for this project?

How much you got?

 

[BrianLo]

Back on the topic of Tropical America’s I wonder what the budget is for this project?

I'm not sure what they spent on TBA. One of those budgets, plus a new E-ticket and overlays. I feel like it *should* come in 40-50% cheaper than SWGE. But imagineering's spending is a Pandora's box.

 

[dreamfinding]

I'm not sure what they spent on TBA. One of those budgets, plus a new E-ticket and overlays. I feel like it *should* come in 40-50% cheaper than SWGE. But imagineering's spending is a Pandora's box.

I know we never get accurate numbers, but Tiana’s had to be at least 10 million, probably more.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I know we never get accurate numbers, but Tiana’s had to be at least 10 million, probably more.

A LOT more. Disney can’t even seem to get a flat ride for $10 million. Even a park like Six Flags spends more than that on a bare roller coaster.

 

[dreamfinding]

A LOT more. Disney can’t even seem to get a flat ride for $10 million. Even a park like Six Flags spends more than that on a bare roller coaster.

… like how much we talking? A quarter of a billion? Or is that too high?

 

[dreamfinding]

How much you got?

I got $5 and half a PB&J sandwich

 

[doctornick]

… like how much we talking? A quarter of a billion? Or is that too high?

I feel like the scuttlebutt was $100-200M

 

[dreamfinding]

I feel like the scuttlebutt was $100-200M

Different situation, but wasn’t Cosmic Rewind rumored to be 500 million?

I know it’s not entirely comparable because CR had a whole new building, had to gut another building, and an entire new track.

I wonder about MMRR? Or even what Test Track 3.0 is going to run? (different expectations there, because someone else is footing the bill).

 

[Karakasa]

How much you got?

I got $5 and half a PB&J sandwich

 

[eddie104]

Probably upwards of $1 billion

I definitely feel like it’s in this price range.

 

[dreamfinding]

I definitely feel like it’s in this price range.

So on par with GE

 

[BrianLo]

There's a lot of infrastructure being re-utilized and an entire ride being re-utilized. Very little Rock work. While Encanto sounds like it could be lovely, I'd be surprised if it was remotely on the scale of Rise.

Which is to say if it costs the same as Galaxies Edge, something is very, very wrong. I feel like it will come in cheaper than Pandora as well, inevitably.


This is what's probably letting the budgeting also justify a Lion King attraction.

 

[dreamfinding]

There's a lot of infrastructure being re-utilized and an entire ride being re-utilized. Very little Rock work. While Encanto sounds like it could be lovely, I'd be surprised if it was remotely on the scale of Rise.

Which is to say if it costs the same as Galaxies Edge, something is very, very wrong. I feel like it will come in cheaper than Pandora as well, inevitably.

Pandoras was what - $500 million? Not exactly apples to apples here, but that’s the same rumored cost as Cosmic Rewind.

I can see 500 million being more realistic for the project, even if there has to be a new show building. I know a lot of it depends on what actually had to be done to the inside of buildings, tracks, queue space, show elements, etc.

I guess a lot of it has to do with exactly what type of attractions are being built.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Pandoras was what - $500 million? Not exactly apples to apples here, but that’s the same rumored cost as Cosmic Rewind.

I can see 500 million being more realistic for the project, even if there has to be a new show building. I know a lot of it depends on what actually had to be done to the inside of buildings, tracks, queue space, show elements, etc.

I guess a lot of it has to do with exactly what type of attractions are being built.

Pandora was closer to a billion.

You are way over estimated the costs of a building.