Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

LittleBuford

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Finally saw Barbie tonight and loved how clever and funny it was, Disney hasn’t put out anything that good in several years.

Just goes to show you can include an underlying social message and still be funny and successful as long as the story is good.
Thank you for at least acknowledging that it has a social message. Several Barbie fans in this forum have repeatedly denied that glaringly obvious fact because it doesn’t accord with claims they make about Disney.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
It ran for 5 seasons over 6 years. I’m sure some people remember it, but it doesn’t even matter because aside from the title, the lead character’s name and that it’s about a stunt man, it has virtually nothing at all to do with the tv series.

Did the movie have the theme song? I'm still humming it and half-singing it, but luckily I remembered a few more lyrics.

Hey! Hey!

Finally saw Barbie tonight and loved how clever and funny it was, Disney hasn’t put out anything that good in several years.

Just goes to show you can include an underlying social message and still be funny and successful as long as the story is good.

Wasn't it great?!? One of the best movies I've seen in years.

My sister and I had a moment sitting next to each other in the theater during the monologue late in the film about all that Mom's do for their kids, thinking about our Mom. Truly special, and so true! 🥲

Thank you for at least acknowledging that it has a social message. Several Barbie fans in this forum have repeatedly denied that glaringly obvious fact because it doesn’t accord with claims they make about Disney.

Huh? The message in Barbie is that men and women need each other to exist equally, and that everyone should lighten up and laugh a little. And to stop wearing all black and spouting pre-approved slogans in scorn. It was a beautiful movie! 😍
 

BrianLo

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The film has a modest budget and the marketing doesn't seem out of whack. So 375mil would be the aprox break even point. That's very doable especially with good word of mouth. It's done 67mil as of the last reported numbers.

That’s a very strong multiple it requires though. 3.5x is more in line with CinemaScore, its budget, etc.

It can do it, 5.5X is possible, but that’s a big task. If it does they’ll for sure green light a sequel. That would be excellent legs! 🦵
 

Wendy Pleakley

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That’s a very strong multiple it requires though. 3.5x is more in line with CinemaScore, its budget, etc.

It can do it, 5.5X is possible, but that’s a big task. If it does they’ll for sure green light a sequel. That would be excellent legs! 🦵

If a movie has really strong word of mouth there are cases where a modest hit can justify a sequel based on popularity.

The first Austin Powers grossed $50 million but people loved it and no doubt had strong home video uptake. The sequel quadrupled the gross of the original.

It did have the benefit of being low cost though, and the first one was profitable.

I suspect studios will be less risk averse in today's climate but if Fall Guy ekes out a small profit AND is sufficiently liked there's still a chance it's a viable franchise.
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
If a movie has really strong word of mouth there are cases where a modest hit can justify a sequel based on popularity.

The first Austin Powers grossed $50 million but people loved it and no doubt had strong home video uptake. The sequel quadrupled the gross of the original.

It did have the benefit of being low cost though, and the first one was profitable.

I suspect studios will be less risk averse in today's climate but if Fall Guy ekes out a small profit AND is sufficiently liked there's still a chance it's a viable franchise.

Totally. The historical average for A+ cinema scores is 5.5X, in fact. But this one only has an A-, so would to bad well above its word of mouth expectancy.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Ohhh this will fix it…

Clickbate article, that is not exactly what he said. He isn't involve in the creative aspects of Marvel. Rather that he is discussing with Feige and the Marvel Team about slowing down output, refocus on quality rather than quantity. Which isn't new, he said the same thing last year.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Clickbate article, that is not exactly what he said. He isn't involve in the creative aspects of Marvel. Rather that he is discussing with Feige and the Marvel Team about slowing down output, refocus on quality rather than quantity. Which isn't new, he said the same thing last year.
Yeah…feel like we’ve heard this before

How’d it work the last time?
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
They haven’t had a release since Iger last discussed this, Deadpool will be the first release.
Not marvel, Sunny Jim

The last time he did this “calming influence” crap it still has that studio in shambles…
And nobody is buying - checks ticker - his schtick anymore.

This guy is so past his prime. He’ll be the last to know 😎
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Not marvel, Sunny Jim

The last time he did this “calming influence” crap it still has that studio in shambles…
And nobody is buying - checks ticker - his schtick anymore.

This guy is so past his prime. He’ll be the last to know 😎
The article was about Marvel, so that is what I'm discussing not anything else. If you want to discuss something else please be clear about it and not this vague crap Grandpa.

And your shtick on booting Iger is getting old. We all know you want him gone yesterday, give it a rest.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
The article was about Marvel, so that is what I'm discussing not anything else. If you want to discuss something else please be clear about it and not this vague crap Grandpa.

And your shtick on booting Iger is getting old. We all know you want him gone yesterday, give it a rest.
…as soon as he’s gone.

Thank god we have him to save “Disney’s soul”, right?

And this is your lowest grade work. This is EXACTLY what he said about LFL in 2018 after they bombed movies. And what a dream that was.
You guys get a discount on the “strategically aloof” classes in this thread?
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
…as soon as he’s gone.

Thank god we have him to save “Disney’s soul”, right?

And this is your lowest grade work. This is EXACTLY what he said about LFL in 2018 after they bombed movies. And what a dream that was.
You guys get a discount on the “strategically aloof” classes in this thread?
Well stop being vague in every post and actually post full complete thoughts. And then maybe we'll be able to pick up on what you're talking about.

As for SW, while the shows have been hit or miss, by some accounts SW is better received now than it was 5 years ago. So I think the break in movies has done it some good. And so we'll see how it does when they finally release a new movie.

Back on Marvel, the year break for the MCU (outside of Deadpool) I think will also do it some good.
 

pigglewiggle

Well-Known Member

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Better received? How so?
Because they’ve dumped the awful movies they’ve made and every tv thing now leans in HEAVY to OT or prequels…

I actually agree with him there.

But it’s also “diminished”. Not what they could get out of it. Particularly in product which was the whole point of it.
 

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