News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[MisterPenguin]

So much discussion how Disney is being punished by the CFTOD. So it has been almost one year, Can some please supply me with a list of all the projects that the CFTOD has interfered with. What demands they have made that Disney has had to change their plans???

The ability of the CFTOD to interfere with Disney has been greatly hampered by the contract the RCID board made with Disney before they were replaced. The CFTOD now has very little power left. And that's why the state legislature tried to undo the contract through legislative fiat (normally an unconstitutional thing to do) and why the CFTOD is suing Disney (but if the legislature took care of it... what's there to sue about? Hmm?).

 

[Brian]

Can you show me how CFTOD has improved the district?

It's an oversight district, not an improvement district.

 

[flynnibus]

I would be curious to see a list like this as well. Not sure it exists, but maybe someone here can provide something.

Uhh.. how about forcing the two cities to spend money to duplicate services and do their own implementation of what have been shared services for decades? Total waste of money.

How about negotiating a contract with the fire department that clearly wasn't on the same terms as the prior management wanted?

How about forcing how many tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees to be spent on legal actions due to undesirable paths?

How about spending hundreds of thousands of tax dollars on revisionist hit-piece reports created to push political agendas?

How about how much institutional knowledge has been lost with the dozens of employees that have left the district?

How about setting up of new fees and penalty fees that were enacted without any examples of past issues?

You can't really point to Disney projects per say simply because a few simple facts. 1) The board can't go after what's already been done... so Disney can avoid conflict by simply not pushing the topic and 2) The entire comprehensive plan is already bogged down in a lawsuit, so both sides know its basically hands off.

The board has 'stayed in their lane' by focusing on trying to rearchitect the District's administrative structure to match what their narrative by trying to paint a picture of how bad it was ran before... all while happily spending someone else's money.

 

[flynnibus]

It's an oversight district, not an improvement district.

Only in name... the district OWNS the responsibilities. They are not an auditor.

 

[Dranth]

It's an oversight district, not an improvement district.

It replaced RCID in name only so it is literally still an improvement district.

 

[mkt]

Shakshouka versions in Morocco and Turkey are first rate.

Gotta mention this - at Epcot, the hot mint tea in Morocco is by far the best thing to have on a rare Florida cold day.

 

[mkt]

It's an oversight district, not an improvement district.

Only in name. The legislation didn't change the mission of the district.

 

[Brian]

Only in name... the district OWNS the responsibilities. They are not an auditor.

It replaced RCID in name only so it is literally still an improvement district.

Only in name. The legislation didn't change the mission of the district.

"When they tell you who they are, believe them."

Calling themselves the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District was no accident. They told you exactly what they intend to do. The only misnomer is including Central Florida, since WDW is the only tourism being overseen.

 

[Stripes]

"When they tell you who they are, believe them."

Calling themselves the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District was no accident. They told you exactly what they intend to do. The only misnomer is including Central Florida, since WDW is the only tourism being overseen.

In what manner does the district have the ability to oversee tourism? What exactly are their oversight responsibilities?

 

[Dranth]

"When they tell you who they are, believe them."

Calling themselves the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District was no accident. They told you exactly what they intend to do. The only misnomer is including Central Florida, since WDW is the only tourism being overseen.

I would call that more of an aspirational goal for them. Changing the name does not override the legal documents that form the district.

 

[MisterPenguin]

"When they tell you who they are, believe them."

Calling themselves the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District was no accident. They told you exactly what they intend to do. The only misnomer is including Central Florida, since WDW is the only tourism being overseen.

Uh... yeah. The falsehood of being a Tourist Oversight District for all of Central Florida was sloganeering to hide the fact they have no concern for the needs of WDW's district.

Saying they're about *tourism* in *Central Florida* was to hide a more accurate description would would have been "Walt Disney Vengeful Take-Over Board."

When the name they use to call themselves is a lie... that's all you need to know.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

How about negotiating a contract with the fire department that clearly wasn't on the same terms as the prior management wanted?

Also, that contract was so out of balance with the local market that the District ended up renegotiating the deal due to the fallout of how it would negatively impact the surrounding area.

 

[flynnibus]

Also, that contract was so out of balance with the local market that the District ended up renegotiating the deal due to the fallout of how it would negatively impact the surrounding area.

Did they? I didn't remember a new deal coming before the board?

 

[lazyboy97o]

"When they tell you who they are, believe them."

Calling themselves the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District was no accident. They told you exactly what they intend to do. The only misnomer is including Central Florida, since WDW is the only tourism being overseen.

You’re the one who keeps telling us they can’t actually do the oversight they intended.

 

[Brian]

You’re the one who keeps telling us they can’t actually do the oversight they intended.

Again, two things can be true at once. They can be tasked with "oversight" (i.e. screwing with Disney in a vain attempt to get them to back off DEI) while ultimately being incapable of doing so effectively.

If you're so convinced that CFTOD is capable of getting them to back off DEI, please lay it out for me. Yes, they can obstruct Disney's upkeep and expansion efforts at WDW, but that is only a small piece of the global Disney puzzle. To effectively stymie the global DEI effort would require far more than obstruction at WDW.

 

[mmascari]

"When they tell you who they are, believe them."

Calling themselves the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District was no accident. They told you exactly what they intend to do. The only misnomer is including Central Florida, since WDW is the only tourism being overseen.

Who gets to decide that "Central Florida" and not "Oversight" is the lie? What makes one part of the name more genuine then the rest? The entire "Central Florida Tourism Oversight" is false and misleading based on the establishing legislation. The "District" part is at least correct.

 

[The Mom]

Posters are going to be banned from further discussion if they continue down the politics road.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

I don't get why this thread is here. I haven't visited this thread at all for probably over a year (I don't care to check), but it's just tiresome so I always leave. I'd much rather comment on which bottles they're hanging today on Tiana's Salt Mound.

 

[The Mom]

I don't get why this thread is here. I haven't visited this thread at all for probably over a year (I don't care to check), but it's just tiresome so I always leave. I'd much rather comment on which bottles they're hanging today on Tiana's Salt Mound.

If I had my way.

 

[Dranth]

We have not agreed much on some things in the forums here, but I agree on this. I don't get why this thread is here. I haven't visited this thread at all for probably over a year (I don't care to check), but it's just tiresome so I always leave. I'd much rather comment on which bottles they're hanging today on Tiana's Salt Mound.

Some of us appreciate the updates.

Sure, it devolves into sniping now and then but overall, given the nature of the issue and how it can potentially impact WDW it isn't all that unreasonable to have a thread about it.