News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

[aladdin2007]

It just looks to be in a sad state whenever I ride it, but perhaps I'm being overly picky?

I agree with you, its not in very good shape and the show quality is not great. Really miss the entrance tunnel with the mist,,,I miss how the small world style room actually had quality show lighting instead of just bright white spot lights....and the list goes on. It needs a freshen up.

 

[Brer Oswald]

Okay folks, with Encanto now shifted to DAK, place your bets what replaces it Beyond Big Thunder!

Kingdom Hearts (it won’t but I can dream)

 

[doctornick]

It just looks to be in a sad state whenever I ride it, but perhaps I'm being overly picky?

Okay, but then it just needs a refurb not a complete change of the ride. Personally I find it a great complimentary ride and if they want to spend money in WS, building a new ride in someplace like UK, Japan, Italy or Germany would be a much better use of resources than changing Mexico’s ride

 

[James Alucobond]

Okay, but then it just needs a refurb not a complete change of the ride. Personally I find it a great complimentary ride and if they want to spend money in WS, building a new ride in someplace like UK, Japan, Italy or Germany would be a much better use of resources than changing Mexico’s ride

My point is that I think even a halfway decent refurb that actually brings it up to standards would likely increase traffic to problematic levels. I could be wrong, though.

 

[J4546]

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To me, this seems to be the path of least resistance for what they're trying to do. If they're building the resort north of the Grand Floridian, I could see a plaza/entrance/expansion area south of Coco that justifies being that far out.

A walkway from Haunted Mansion could create an extremely pretty boardwalk-type area and a fantastic transition into a villain's land, then a tunnel through to Coco and beyond. thematically, it works perfectly, IMHO. If they want, they could mess with adding another path over the utilidors entrance to decongest HM.

i feel like they will get rid of the northern half of rivers when they do this.

 

[doctornick]

i feel like they will get rid of the northern half of rivers when they do this.

At DL, they truncated the river and northern island a bit when building GE but kept most of it. I’d be okay if they do something similar here.

 

[UNCgolf]

My point is that I think even a halfway decent refurb that actually brings it up to standards would likely increase traffic to problematic levels. I could be wrong, though.

I kind of doubt it -- Nemo features a popular IP and it's almost always a walk-on. There's just a lot of other things to do at EPCOT.

Even if it did increase traffic, though, I don't think there's any way it would increase traffic nearly as much as it would with Coco attached.

 

[MrPromey]

'Things are about to go into overdrive at Magic Kingdom says Parks Chairman Josh D'Amaro​

Things are about to go into overdrive at Magic Kingdom says Disney Parks Chairman Josh D'Amaro

Things are about to go into overdrive at Magic Kingdom says Disney Parks Chairman Josh D'Amaro

www.wdwmagic.com

Wait, so they managed to get a whole 'nother year of mileage out of a non-announcement?!

Unbelievable!

 

[James Alucobond]

I kind of doubt it -- Nemo features a popular IP and it's almost always a walk-on. There's just a lot of other things to do at EPCOT.

Even if it did increase traffic, though, I don't think there's any way it would increase traffic nearly as much as it would with Coco attached.

Well, yes, because Nemo is a total nothingburger and could also use updates to bring it up to standards. If it were likewise refreshed to have literally any compelling animatronics, visual effects, or story details at all, I think it would instantly be quite a bit more popular.

Also, I'm slightly confused by the point you're making since the implication of Nemo is that attaching a popular IP to something does not necessarily ensure the attraction will eternally be mobbed.

 

[MrPromey]

DVC info kiosk!

DVC tower!


(if you have to ask about the points, you can't afford it)

 

[flyerjab]

This one is still so blue sky I’m not really that excited…yet.

What would be great is if by overdrive he means a much faster production schedule. These 5 to 7 year builds are ridiculous.

 

[UNCgolf]

Well, yes, because Nemo is a total nothingburger and could also use updates to bring it up to standards. If it were likewise refreshed to have literally any compelling animatronics, visual effects, or story details at all, I think it would instantly be quite a bit more popular.

Also, I'm slightly confused by the point you're making since the implication of Nemo is that attaching a popular IP to something does not necessarily ensure the attraction will eternally be mobbed.

No, I specifically said above that Coco would be mobbed at first, not that it would be mobbed indefinitely.

As for Nemo -- it needs to be removed. There's nothing you could do to what exists that would make it a good attraction. They need to focus on the aquarium again.

 

[James Alucobond]

Ah, sorry. Wasn't making connections from one post to the next. Topic-hopping more than usual today. Agreed on Nemo, though.

 

[UNCgolf]

Ah, sorry. Wasn't making connections from one post to the next. Topic-hopping more than usual today. Agreed on Nemo, though.

No apology necessary!

I still don't understand why they thought it would be a good idea to just put up curtains over views into the aquarium. They could have at least done a Nemo ride that incorporated those windows.

 

[Tha Realest]

I don't give a dang about blue sky water color paintings. The ONLY thing that I care about are projects that have an ACTUAL financial green light from Disney finance. Without that,...these fantasy ideas are worthless.

Announce that the budget and money have been approved and...get a real "break-ground" date!

Only then....can we get excited and wait for construction to finish in 5-7 years.

The official Twitter account just said Encanto/Indy at DAK is being “considered”

 

[MrPromey]

My opinion would be to have Coco at Epcot / Mexico pavilion.
Mary Poppins attraction at Epcot / United Kingdom.
Have a new country in Colombia created at Epcot just for Encanto.
Then utilize all that free land in other parks for something grander.
Beyond Big Thunder Mountain should be something really special & different for Magic Kingdom.
Something that can last 50 years & add to the park & the whole Walt Disney Resort.
Effort needs to really be put in.
That last Fantasy land expansion was a ripoff.
The only new attraction was Snow Whites Mine coaster.
Let's not make the same mistakes.

To be fair, we did get the Little Mermaid, too but you can be forgiven for forgetting that one since almost everyone else wants to or has.

 

[Jae-J]

I mean, that's not going to happen in the next 20 years. So getting a decent sized land inside Magic Kingdom makes sense to me. How can we say all of the Disney magic and fairytales fit in Magic Kingdom but not all the dark

To be fair, we did get the Little Mermaid, too but you can be forgiven for forgetting that one since almost everyone else wants to or has.

Mermaid is a decent attraction but it was just a carbon copy of what is at other parks with the same ride system as Haunted Mansion.
Nothing but an attraction that was rush into blueprints as a filler.
Walt Disney World deserves something special & unique.
Like when we got Everest Expedition back in 2006.
Us fans should be wowed & amazed!
Make us never second guess about not renewing our annual passes ever.

 

[MrPromey]

Mermaid is a decent attraction but it was just a carbon copy of what is at other parks with the same ride system as Haunted Mansion.
Nothing but an attraction that was rush into blueprints as a filler.
Walt Disney World deserves something special & unique.
Like when we got Everest Expedition back in 2006.
Us fans should be wowed & amazed!
Make us never second guess about not renewing our annual passes ever.

Lots of attractions use or have used the same ride system as Haunted Mansion. Disney invented it and it's called an Omnimover.

The ride system wasn't the problem, the ride they used it in was.

Having said that, it was planned for here at the same time as DL's (development budget was split). Theirs just opened a little sooner and what they managed to get right over there is setting it up as a c-ticket attraction from the onset where as over here, they gave it a really impressive e-ticket exterior and queue.

I mean, there is plenty more wrong with it than that but all of that's easier to overlook out in Californa Adventure because of where and how it was established, there.

A part of me wonders if all these noncommittal big plans they supposedly have are just their way of dragging their feet until they see how Epic Universe is received so they have some idea of what they may need to pour into future development on their end.

I'm beginning to think we won't see outward signs of them getting serous about anything until after Universal's next park is fully online.

In the meantime, they can stall and delay with pretty concept art for things they're "thinking about".

 

[TP2000]

A part of me wonders if all these noncommittal big plans they supposedly have are just their way of dragging their feet until they see how Epic Universe is received so they have some idea of what they may need to pour into future development on their end.

I'm beginning to think we won't see outward signs of them getting serous about anything until after Universal's next park is online.

Exactly. Or, in other words, check back in 2032.

 

[Cliff]

The official Twitter account just said Encanto/Indy at DAK is being “considered”

Egggg-zactly!

You can bet that very little of this actually has a budget, let alone a financial green light.

I'd bet again that the finance groups in Burbank and Orlando were watching the live stream with us...LAUGHING their tails off. I can see them texting each other:

"Look at that Joe,...these guys are crazy dreamers. There is no chance in Hell that we are going to sign off on ANY of that for 3 years...if at all!....Hahaha!!!"

This entire presentation was just to convince investors that everything at Disney is perfectly OK. It's there to make US feel that everything is fine. It's all smoke and mirrors. Disney will need to use careful wording like "what if" or "plans to" or "considering" because it's unfair to "promise" anything like this to actual investors using this information to make real investment decisions.

This is all just a mostly fake public relations hype attempt. Disney is not going to spend $1 on anything new until AFTER this massive HULU 10 billion dollar+ deal is fully financed and finished and Disney stops the hundreds of millions of dollars...per quarter,...every quarter....of financial bleeding.