News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

James Alucobond

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Was wondering if they took this approach, they might be able to keep the Rivers of America it it’s entirety? I guess the trick would be to have the path of travel go to the new land behind Splash and BTM, then all away around. Does anyone think this is possible?
I think it would be unlikely for them to not at least chop off the uninhabited top portion of TSI. Otherwise you end up with very long and mostly featureless passageways in some places. That doesn’t mean that the Liberty Belle has to stop running; it just means that it wouldn’t loop around as far north.
 

SteamboatJoe

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I think it would be unlikely for them to not at least chop off the uninhabited top portion of TSI. Otherwise you end up with very long and mostly featureless passageways in some places. That doesn’t mean that the Liberty Belle has to stop running; it just means that it wouldn’t loop around as far north.
Correct - like what happened at Disneyland which was executed fairly well. The northern loop actually has stuff to see. The real question is will a riverboat cruising past whatever they put back there make thematic sense - although they don't seem as concerned about that kind of consistency these days.
 

DisneyRoxMySox

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Correct - like what happened at Disneyland which was executed fairly well. The northern loop actually has stuff to see. The real question is will a riverboat cruising past whatever they put back there make thematic sense - although they don't seem as concerned about that kind of consistency these days.
Fair enough y’all. Was just getting curious this morning with the reannoucment of ‘nothing’ but that if it was substantial enough they could fill all that space.
 

UNCgolf

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IMO, move Coco to Mexico in the World Showcase and put some additional bayou-themed things along a path north under the Frontierland station, including a restaurant and shops, ending in a bridge “to the other side” right as you cross over the RoA access canal.

That runs into the constant issue of how to actually put Coco there without having to do significant construction and overhauling part of the pavilion (to build the necessary queue space etc.). I believe Martin mentioned before that was part of the reason they backed off changing the Mexico ride to Coco.
 

Jae-J

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Adding Disney Villians to any park would be a terrible decision.
Disney Villains should have their own park entirely.
They have enough characters & IP to do it correctly & compete with Universal's Epic Universe.
 

neo999955

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Adding Disney Villians to any park would be a terrible decision.
Disney Villains should have their own park entirely.
They have enough characters & IP to do it correctly & compete with Universal's Epic Universe.
I mean, that's not going to happen in the next 20 years. So getting a decent sized land inside Magic Kingdom makes sense to me. How can we say all of the Disney magic and fairytales fit in Magic Kingdom but not all the dark and villians?
 

James Alucobond

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That runs into the constant issue of how to actually put Coco there without having to do significant construction and overhauling part of the pavilion (to build the necessary queue space etc.). I believe Martin mentioned before that was part of the reason they backed off changing the Mexico ride to Coco.
For sure, but at this point, you’re essentially saying that they can never update the pavilion’s ride in any way that’s even remotely exciting because it can’t handle the crowds. It needs to be addressed at some point.
 

UNCgolf

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For sure, but at this point, you’re essentially saying that they can never update the pavilion in any way that’s even remotely exciting because it can’t handle the crowds. It needs to be addressed at some point.

I don't really see that as a problem, though. They don't need to have a massive draw attraction in that pavilion, especially when they still have empty expansion pads and unused attraction spaces in other pavilions (and Wonders of Life sitting empty, Imagination a shell, etc.). It's nice to have something people can do that doesn't have long lines, plus the Mexico pavilion interior is wonderful and it would be unfortunate to lose it.
 

Jae-J

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My opinion would be to have Coco at Epcot / Mexico pavilion.
Mary Poppins attraction at Epcot / United Kingdom.
Have a new country in Colombia created at Epcot just for Encanto.
Then utilize all that free land in other parks for something grander.
Beyond Big Thunder Mountain should be something really special & different for Magic Kingdom.
Something that can last 50 years & add to the park & the whole Walt Disney Resort.
Effort needs to really be put in.
That last Fantasy land expansion was a ripoff.
The only new attraction was Snow Whites Mine coaster.
Let's not make the same mistakes.
 

SplashJacket

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To me, this seems to be the path of least resistance for what they're trying to do. If they're building the resort north of the Grand Floridian, I could see a plaza/entrance/expansion area south of Coco that justifies being that far out.

A walkway from Haunted Mansion could create an extremely pretty boardwalk-type area and a fantastic transition into a villain's land, then a tunnel through to Coco and beyond. thematically, it works perfectly, IMHO. If they want, they could mess with adding another path over the utilidors entrance to decongest HM.
 

James Alucobond

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I don't really see that as a problem, though. They don't need to have a massive draw attraction in that pavilion, especially when they still have empty expansion pads and unused attraction spaces in other pavilions. It's nice to have something people can do that doesn't have long lines, plus the Mexico pavilion interior is wonderful and it would be unfortunate to lose it.
Yes, but the attraction is, in my opinion, incredibly sad at this point. I’m not saying that they shouldn’t add other capacity first or make this into an E-ticket, but nothing should be eternally relegated to “take a snooze in the AC while the set collects dust” status just because there are logistical challenges that need to be overcome.
 

UNCgolf

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Yes, but the attraction is, in my opinion, incredibly sad at this point. I’m not saying that they shouldn’t add other capacity first or make this into an E-ticket, but nothing should be eternally relegated to “take a snooze in the AC while the set collects dust” status just because there are logistical challenges that need to be overcome.

The attraction could be updated without turning it into a major draw, though. Adding Coco automatically makes it a big draw (at least at first).
 

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