EPCOT Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot

TheMaxRebo

Well-Known Member
Ok, ok please clarify, what is the water doing?

Per a report from the CM previews, some features include:
- Water harps that you can play by passing your hand under a series of water strings
- A waterfall curtain that parts for you when you pass through it
- Leaping fountains that you can direct
- Collaborative effects where more people gathering around creates larger fountains
- The ability to high-five the water, with the fountain aiming for your hand to meet you high or low
- A children's play area with spitting kakamora"
 

Rhinocerous

Premium Member
Location disputes aside, I think the biggest issue here is how it is being presented.

Using “magic” to give a thing fun characteristics it doesn’t normally possess is expected. That’s, like, page 1 in the edutainment playbook. The problem is suggesting those gags are legitimate in a teaching context.

Water is an inert substance which obeys the laws of physics. It doesn’t have a “playful personality.” It would be like advertising the Figment ride with a blurb saying “learn about how your imagination loves to make you smell skunk.”
 

doctornick

Well-Known Member
Location disputes aside, I think the biggest issue here is how it is being presented.

Using “magic” to give a thing fun characteristics it doesn’t normally possess is expected. That’s, like, page 1 in the edutainment playbook. The problem is suggesting those gags are legitimate in a teaching context.

Water is an inert substance which obeys the laws of physics. It doesn’t have a “playful personality.” It would be like advertising the Figment ride with a blurb saying “learn about how your imagination loves to make you smell skunk.”
You mean like pretending there’s little people in your body controlling various body parts?
 

No Name

Well-Known Member
You mean like pretending there’s little people in your body controlling various body parts?
Are you talking about Inside Out, which gives character to emotions in a way that serves to strengthen the message of the movie? Ironically Moana’s use of water works too. But trying to tie this magic to the basic scientific process of the water cycle… that makes absolutely no sense and is also just really lame.


This would be like if Aladdin tried to incorporate a message about the gravity of carpets. Or if Toy Story was about the properties of plastic. Or if Iron Man was about the anatomy of the heart. Or if Star Wars… okay I’ll stop.

Disney is good at using magic to further themes, not to literally explain science.
 

James Alucobond

Well-Known Member
Are you talking about Inside Out, which gives character to emotions in a way that serves to strengthen the message of the movie? Ironically Moana’s use of water works too. But trying to tie this magic to the basic scientific process of the water cycle… that makes absolutely no sense and is also just really lame.


This would be like if Aladdin tried to incorporate a message about the gravity of carpets. Or if Toy Story was about the properties of plastic. Or if Iron Man was about the anatomy of the heart. Or if Star Wars… okay I’ll stop.

Disney is good at using magic to further themes, not to literally explain science.
I would assume @doctornick is referring to Cranium Command rather than Inside Out.
 

Incomudro

Well-Known Member
Location disputes aside, I think the biggest issue here is how it is being presented.

Using “magic” to give a thing fun characteristics it doesn’t normally possess is expected. That’s, like, page 1 in the edutainment playbook. The problem is suggesting those gags are legitimate in a teaching context.

Water is an inert substance which obeys the laws of physics. It doesn’t have a “playful personality.” It would be like advertising the Figment ride with a blurb saying “learn about how your imagination loves to make you smell skunk.”
Yeah, I support this addition to Epcot - on the premise of it being a lush, planted walk through in an otherwise dystopian swath.
While I was a huge fan of Epcot and its original edutainment angle, I don't consider this to be that despite them marketing it as such.
 

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