EPCOT Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot

[Epcot82Guy]

I still dont think this is as poor placement as others think lol. If it didnt have moana in it and was just the journey of water an interactive lifecycle of water walkthrough people would prob think it fits better

I agree with that. The placement issue (aside from Moana and the poly/Adventureland/AK ascetic - which could easily be tweaked to better fit) is how it took over a 1/4 of the plaza but faces World Nature. And, it feels more disconnected from World Nature than you may think when there in person. Had it been more integrated into World Nature and/or had multiple entrances, connecting it to World Celebration (being the gateway into World Nature, so to speak, from World Celebration), it would have been a great idea.

This isn't a bad attraction across the board. It's a solid idea that was implemented with a number of very large problems.

 

[SilentWindODoom]

Heh. I feel like the only real hype I've seen of this project has been from detractors claiming it's too overhyped.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I agree. It's about time Figment gets kicked out of Epcot for not representing a real place on earth!

Our imagination is real and exists in all of our brains.

Except for whoever is making the decisions in TWDC about the movies they produce.

 

[Fear]

The poster copied pictures of jungle-like locations in Epcot to support why Moana fits.

Correction: I was responding to another poster claiming that there was nothing about Epcot relating to jungles or tropical locations. I was just citing some locations that did.

 

[Bocabear]

There is nothing about Future World...that particularly is set in the jungle...nothing about the common areas outside of the pavilions that feel like a tropical island jungle setting fits. ...you know what I meant...lol

 

[Centauri Space Station]

There is nothing about Future World...that particularly is set in the jungle...nothing about the common areas outside of the pavilions that feel like a tropical island jungle setting fits. ...you know what I meant...lol

Future world is gone. It’s in world nature which water is a part of.

 

[dreday3]

There is nothing about Future World...that particularly is set in the jungle...nothing about the common areas outside of the pavilions that feel like a tropical island jungle setting fits. ...you know what I meant...lol

If this was built inside a pavilion dedicated to World Nature (or something) - would you feel better about it? Is it because it's outside and doesn't fit in with the rest of the more concrete aesthetic? Serious question.

 

[Disstevefan1]

We are stuck with this stupid thing so might as well accept it.

I will be in the conga line to get in when it opens - BECAUSE ITS NEW AND I CAN SET FOOT IN AN AREA OF EPCOT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 4 YEARS.

I will not however be flapping my arms to make the water move. I will let the 3284 people before me in line do that.

 

[SilentWindODoom]

However, this is being viewed as a MOANA attraction - not a WATER CYCLE attraction.

So quit viewing it that way?

 

[MisterPenguin]

Correction: I was responding to another poster claiming that there was nothing about Epcot relating to jungles or tropical locations. I was just citing some locations that did.

You left out the jungle scenes in Soarin' and the tropica fish in Nemo!!

Hand in your badge!!

 

[wdwmagic]

My thoughts about this have remained unchanged when it first began. It's a pretty area, that will be a nice distraction for a few moments when its new, but it will quickly be bypassed by anyone who has seen it before, and eventually effects will start to fail. There are better areas that are similar already at WDW - thinking of Pandora.

The center of the park could/should have been something truly impressive, and I don't think this is it. A missed opportunity.

 

[Skibum1970]

Water is really hard to get right. By that, I mean that it is hard to make a waterfall work because you cannot have enough volume or height to really replicate a waterfall. Wilderness Lodge does a good job but the water from that Journey of Water video seemed a little weak. Maybe they didn't have it flowing at peak or maybe it is very difficult to capture on video. Of course, it could simply be that it isn't that kind of waterfall but more water feature.

 

[Disney Analyst]

My thoughts about this have remained unchanged when it first began. It's a pretty area, that will be a nice distraction for a few moments when its new, but it will quickly be bypassed by anyone who has seen it before, and eventually effects will start to fail. There are better areas that are similar already at WDW - thinking of Pandora.

The center of the park could/should have been something truly impressive, and I don't think this is it. A missed opportunity.

I'd also bet people would care less IF this hadn't taken so long, if SSE had it's refurb / upgrades, IF the original pedestal festival centre was built (maybe? I know some dislike the design), IF the UK got it's little Mary Poppins expansion, IF Wonders of Life had reopened with it's new theme, etc. etc.

 

[Epcot82Guy]

So quit viewing it that way?

Then there is no reason or argument this fits in Epcot. I'm happy to view it that way (i.e. as a Moana attraction). But, people are claiming it fits because it focuses on the water cycle. If that's not true, then it truly has no reason to be in the park - in its historic or current form.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I'd also bet people would care less IF this hadn't taken so long, if SSE had it's refurb / upgrades, IF the original pedestal festival centre was built (maybe? I know some dislike the design), IF the UK got it's little Mary Poppins expansion, IF Wonders of Life had reopened with it's new theme, etc. etc.

And if all of it was done about the same time this would be a really nice complementary attractions/activity

But, even as someone looking forward to it, as like the final major piece of "completing Epcot" it falls a bit short

 

[Rose&Crown]

Sounds like I’m walking through either the Publix produce section before the mist starts or Rainforest. Neither are Epcot

 

[Epcot81Fan]

Sounds like I’m walking through either the Publix produce section before the mist starts or Rainforest. Neither are Epcot

No, no, you don’t get it because it fits in Epcot because there was once a jungle plant inside Universe of Energy!!!

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

No, no, you don’t get it because it fits in Epcot because there was once a jungle plant inside Universe of Energy!!!

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Yes, this was Peter Quill's favorite plant when he visited Epcot as a child!

 

[MisterPenguin]

No, no, you don’t get it because it fits in Epcot because there was once a jungle plant inside Universe of Energy!!!

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Funny you should post that in jest, because it's an indictment of some of the major flaws of EPCOT's Future World. There is zero educational value for the dinosaurs to be in Universe of Energy because petroleum/oil doesn't come from dead dinosaurs. And at the time UoE was built, the science community knew that.

In the revised Ellen's version, Bill Nye had to apologetically say they're there because "dinosaurs are cool."

From the beginning, the educational element of EPCOT had issues on the educational front. And spending a bunch of time with AA dinosaurs was one of those issues.

If UoE was a brand new attraction built today in the realm of social media, Disney would be pilloried for including them for no good reason.

Why is a Journey of Water inspired by Moana?

"Because it's cool."

 

[lazyboy97o]

Future world is gone. It’s in world nature which water is a part of.

Theme parks are a spatial experience. They’re storytelling with built space. Just drawing lines on a map isn’t enough to create a connected experience and Journey of Water is spatially disconnected in multiple ways from the rest of World Nature.