'Strange World' Disney's 2022 Animated Film

[BuddyThomas]

I love that The Numbers site because it allows you to compare/contrast various movies so easily. And breaks down individual countries box office so easily. It's fun!

Strange World had a budget claimed to be anywhere between $130 to $180 Million. If you split the difference and also say that it only had to make twice its budget to break even (being very conservative since the marketing was so weak), That would put Strange World's breakeven point at $300 Million.

At a roughly $60 Million take nearing the end of its theatrical run and relevance, it just cost Burbank about $225 Million. That's gonna leave a mark on the fiscal year.

Why is a supposed gay man obsessed with trashing movies with gay characters in them? Movies that you have made a point of stating that you have not seen and will not see. I do not understand. You even made a point of going to the pride thread to trash Bros, which you said you have not seen and will not see. The only other gay person I can think of who would act this way is Milo Yiannopoulos, but as far as I know, he is not a Disney fan. Would you like to tell us why, as a gay man, you are so gleeful about films with gay characters in them failing?

 

[TP2000]

I suppose we're both free to draw our own conclusions from the data. To me at least, the notion that parents the world over are on high alert over a film that barely anyone has heard of seems far-fetched to the point of absurdity.

I think parents are on an elevated alert for Disney branded content now, worldwide. Strange World probably wasn't helped by being a movie that was mediocre at best artistically, but parents are no longer automatically willing to allow Disney/Pixar branded "family" content into their entertainment budgets.

Then there's the fact the marketing for Strange World was weak at best, and non-existent for many. Why was that?

Burbank just flushed at least a couple hundred million down the tubes on Strange World. Why?

 

[BuddyThomas]

I think parents are on an elevated alert for Disney branded content now, worldwide. Strange World probably wasn't helped by being a movie that was mediocre at best artistically, but parents are no longer automatically willing to allow Disney/Pixar branded "family" content into their entertainment budgets.

Then there's the fact the marketing for Strange World was weak at best, and non-existent for many. Why was that?

Burbank just flushed at least a couple hundred million down the tubes on Strange World. Why?

Why are you claiming that it is “mediocre at best” if you have not even seen it?

 

[TP2000]

Why is a supposed gay man obsessed with trashing movies with gay characters in them? Movies that you have made a point of stating that you have not seen and will not see. I do not understand.

Because the fact that I'm a practicing homosexual is merely one facet of my humanity. It does not define me, and I would never let it. It's merely one facet of a beautiful gem!

You even made a point of going to the pride thread to trash Bros, which you said you have not seen and will not see. The only other gay person I can think of who would act this way is Milo Yiannopoulos, but as far as I know, he is not a Disney fan. Would you like to tell us why, as a gay man, you are so gleeful about films with gay characters in them failing?

I liken it to Motown. The artists at Motown, particularly the ladies, were some of the most talented artists this great nation has ever produced. And probably ever will produce. In the 1960's they helped change American society and the world during a tumultuous time. But they did it with class and grace; they never got overtly political or offensive.

When the first big gay romcom came along, I would have loved it to be stylish and classy. Bros was crass and obscene. And then the stars of Bros went on Twitter rampages calling anyone who doesn't spend money on the movie a bigot and a bad person. That was not a good look, and showed no class! I was embarrassed for them.

So I chuckled when it all backfired, and the vast majority of even 2SLGBTQQIA+ stayed away from that movie.

Go in with class and style and some smarts, and you can change the world and make new friends along the way!

 

[TP2000]

Why are you claiming that it is “mediocre at best” if you have not even seen it?

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[BuddyThomas]

Because the fact that I'm a practicing homosexual is merely one facet of my humanity. It does not define me, and I would never let it. It's merely one facet of a beautiful gem!



I liken it to Motown. The artists at Motown, particularly the ladies, were some of the most talented artists this great nation has ever produced. And probably ever will produce. In the 1960's they helped change American society and the world during a tumultuous time. But they did it with class and grace; they never got overtly political or offensive.

When the first big gay romcom came along, I would have loved it to be stylish and classy. Bros was crass and obscene. And then the stars of Bros went on Twitter rampages calling anyone who doesn't spend money on the movie a bigot and bad person. That was not a good look, and showed no class! I was embarrassed for them.

So I chuckled when it all backfired, and the vast majority of even 2SLGBTQQIA+ stayed away from that movie.

Go in with class and style and some smarts, and you can change the world and make new friends along the way!

Again, if you are to be believed, you did not see Bros, so you are in absolutely no position to say anything about its content. That said, it is purposefully over the top, just like Bridesmaids, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

 

[BuddyThomas]

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Oh look, you just posted the tomatoes, which are RIPE, and you think this helps your case. Hey, do us all a favor and stop gloating about the failure of a fun movie that you have not seen.

 

[TP2000]

That said, it is purposefully over the top, just like Bridesmaids, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

The people who lost tens of millions of dollars on that movie would disagree with you.

Hollywood is a business that requires profit to continue, it's not a social service agency.

 

[BuddyThomas]

The people who lost tens of millions of dollars on that movie would disagree with you.

Hollywood is a business that requires profit to continue, it's not a social service agency.

Calm down. It was a flop. Does that make you happy?

 

[TP2000]

You are making a lot of big generalizations tonight, even for you.

It's only 5:25pm here and I haven't even had a cocktail yet; that's still an hour or two away. Just wait!

 

[BuddyThomas]

It's only 5:25pm here and I haven't even had a cocktail yet; that's still an hour or two away. Just wait!

Good lord. You’re proud of this type of behavior?

 

[TP2000]

Calm down. It was a flop. Does that make you happy?

Because of how offensive and wildly pompous Mr. Eichner was to pretty much the entire country, it actually does.

As for Strange World flopping? No, that doesn't make me happy. Because it's negatively impacting a company and studio and American icon that I care about. The failure of Strange World, and the overall direction that Pixar and Disney Animation are going in now, is very concerning to me. It's not a happy time in Burbank.

Artistically, or financially...

 

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[BuddyThomas]

Because of how offensive and wildly pompous Mr. Eichner was to pretty much the entire country, it actually does.

As for Strange World flopping? No, that doesn't make me happy. Because it's negatively impacting a company and studio and American icon that I care about. The failure of Strange World, and the overall direction that Pixar and Disney Animation are going in now, is very concerning to me. It's not a happy time in Burbank.

For your information, Mr. Eichner’s entire brand is offensive and pompous. Have you ever seen an episode of Billy on the Street? It is hysterical. I’m sorry that “Burbank” putting gay characters in films is so offensive to a supposed gay person. Hopefully they never do it again so you can live the rest of your life never seeing a gay character on the screen.

 

[TP2000]

For your information, Mr. Eichner’s entire brand is offensive and pompous. Have you ever seen an episode of Billy on the Street? It is hysterical.

Apparently that brand didn't translate well to a romcom. The star and writer going on Twitter rampages also didn't help. If he ever gets a chance to make another movie (doubtful), I'm sure he has learned his lesson now, so at least there's that.

I’m sorry that “Burbank” putting gay characters in films is so offensive to a supposed gay person. Hopefully they never do it again so you can live the rest of your life never seeing a gay character on the screen.

As per usual, you've failed to make the distinction between an animated film aimed at children under age 12, and a film aimed at adults or older teens. HUGE difference there, that most parents are fully aware of.

Lumping all entertainment of all film ratings and subject matter into one giant basket and then labeling anyone who dislikes that entire basket as a "bigot" is not helpful. Nor is it fair to people.

It's also not financially feasible, as we've now seen several times with Disney/Pixar films aimed at children. It's not sustainable and it's a business practice that must change ASAP if the Walt Disney Company is to remain profitable.

 

[BuddyThomas]

Apparently that brand didn't translate well to a romcom. The star and writer going on Twitter rampages also didn't help. If he ever gets a chance to make another movie (doubtful), I'm sure he has learned his lesson now, so at least there's that.



As per usual, you've failed to make the distinction between an animated film aimed at children under age 12, and a film aimed at adults or older teens. HUGE difference there, that most parents are fully aware of.

Lumping all entertainment of all film ratings and subject matter into one giant basket and then labeling anyone who dislikes that entire basket as a "bigot" is not helpful. Nor is it fair to people.

It's also not financially feasible, as we've now seen several times with Disney/Pixar films aimed at children. It's not sustainable and it's a business practice that must change ASAP if the Walt Disney Company is to remain profitable.

As I have stated approximately ten billion times, the innocent gay crush in Strange World comprises less than five minutes of screen time in total. It is no big deal at all. There is absolutely no reason why a gay teen character should not be included in a movie, when gay teens exist in the world, and there is absolutely no reason why a supposed gay man should be objecting to less than five minutes of screen time in a movie he has not seen.

 

[TP2000]

As I have stated approximately ten billion times, the innocent gay crush in Strange World comprises less than five minutes of screen time in total. It is no big deal at all. There is absolutely no reason why a gay teen character should not be included in a movie, when gay teens exist in the world, and there is absolutely no reason why a supposed gay man should be objecting to less than five minutes of screen time in a movie he has not seen.

Here's the extremely valid reason, that is indisputable as a concern for Burbank leadership right now...

Those are simply the facts. Hard, cold, calculating facts that don't care one bit about feelings or artistic merit.

 

[Disney Irish]

I love that The Numbers site because it allows you to compare/contrast various movies so easily. And breaks down individual countries box office so easily. It's fun!

Strange World had a budget claimed to be anywhere between $130 to $180 Million. If you split the difference and also say that it only had to make twice its budget to break even (being very conservative since the marketing was so weak), That would put Strange World's breakeven point at $300 Million.

At a roughly $60 Million take nearing the end of its theatrical run and relevance, it just cost Burbank about $225 Million. That's gonna leave a mark on the fiscal year.

I understand you like The Numbers site. I'm just stating that their tallies are not always accurate as they take longer to update.

So for more up-to-date results use Box Office Mojo. And then you are speak all day long about the profits and losses of a particular movie with accurate tallies.

 

[SuddenStorm]

It's also not financially feasible, as we've now seen several times with Disney/Pixar films aimed at children. It's not sustainable and it's a business practice that must change ASAP if the Walt Disney Company is to remain profitable.

I was thinking about this. Lightyear took a beloved character, reimagined it and added a bit of progressive 'flair', and it bombed.
Disney just tried again with an original story- so no built in audience- added some progressive flair and it bombed.

Up next is The Little Mermaid, which is now a remake of a beloved film but with progressive flair. I'm curious to see how it does, since between these three films you have an adaptation of an IP that's progressive, an original story that's progressive, and a remake that's progressive. So far they've all bombed.