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'Strange World' Disney's 2022 Animated Film

Phroobar

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This may be something that helps Avatar: The Way of Water in theaters. Unlike most other modern movies, Jake Sully is portrayed as a strong patriarch and father figure, and I think the themes of a healthy family unit will play well with audiences over the holiday season.

That's not to say that portraying dysfunctional families is a bad thing. But I feel a lot of movies nowadays are more focused on generational trauma and family strife, so Avatar the Way of Water may feel like a breath of fresh air in that regard.
I think that was a reason I liked it. Jake Sully was trying to be strong patriarch. He made mistakes but was doing the best he could. All long Neytiri was hissing at her kids and ready to beat them. Her character could have been stronger.
 

BuddyThomas

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You can actually spend money on the DVD as a Valentine's Day gift.
Sounds great. I’ll buy it. Thanks for posting!
 

Ghost93

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I think that was a reason I liked it. Jake Sully was trying to be strong patriarch. He made mistakes but was doing the best he could. All long Neytiri was hissing at her kids and ready to beat them. Her character could have been stronger.
While I don't like how Neytiri was sidelined in the second hour the movie, I think she and Jake both had moments where they were too harsh on the kids. There were times she told Jake he should treat the kids like "a family" instead of a squad, and there were times he reigned her anger in.
 

LittleBuford

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If our betters can whiff their nose at Midwesterners who didn't flock to Strange World, they'd have to wear an N95 mask lined with fresh lavender to deal with the middle-class Australians and Japanese and Swedes and Germans!
I would say this undermines your argument that socially conservative American sensibilities are a key factor behind the film's failure. It hasn't done well in any market, liberal or otherwise.
 

LittleBuford

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If a production dares to show a traditional nuclear family with the parents still married, the husband/father is relegated to a bumbling fool, if not someone to just be pitied and made fun of openly.
This is nothing new. On the contrary, it's a very well-established characterisation of traditional family dynamics. See The Flintstones, The Simpsons, etc.

ETA: I think the way you're describing the father's role in these scenarios is hyperbolic. It isn't as negative as you suggest.
 

Disney Irish

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Box office numbers just dumped for all overseas markets this afternoon, reflecting this past weekend's global box office, bringing the global box office total for Strange World up to date. Now at $57 Million globally after a month in theaters.

The trend continues for Strange World that it is actually much weaker in foreign markets than it is in domestic markets.

If our betters can whiff their nose at Midwesterners who didn't flock to Strange World, they'd have to wear an N95 mask lined with fresh lavender to deal with the middle-class Australians and Japanese and Swedes and Germans! And the Mexicans and Poles and Filipinos and Indians really, really don't like Strange World.

Strange World was banned in most Muslim, Sub-Saharan Africa, and Palestinian markets. And Communist China.

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I know since you've become interested in Box Office in the last month or so that you like The Numbers site. But they are often behind by at least a few days when it comes to tallies.

Box Office Mojo is what most of the industry uses as its most up-to-date, for example it shows Strange World at $60.6M:

 

TP2000

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I would say this undermines your argument that socially conservative American sensibilities are a key factor behind the film's failure. It hasn't done well in any market, liberal or otherwise.

I think what it shows is that parents of small children are mostly alike, whether they are deplorables living their wretched lives in the US Midwest, or they're living in Australia or Japan or India or Sweden.

This family movie bombed with... families. Globally.
 

BuddyThomas

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I think what it shows is that parents of small children are mostly alike, whether they are deplorables living their wretched lives in the US Midwest, or they're living in Australia or Japan or India or Sweden.

This family movie bombed with... families. Globally.
You are making a lot of big generalizations tonight, even for you.
 

LittleBuford

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I think what it shows is that parents of small children are mostly alike, whether they are undesirables living their wretched lives in the Midwest, or they're living in Australia or Japan or India or Sweden.

This family movie bombed with... families. Globally.
I suppose we're both free to draw our own conclusions from the data. To me at least, the notion that parents the world over are on high alert over a film that barely anyone has heard of seems far-fetched to the point of absurdity.
 

TP2000

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I know since you've become interested in Box Office in the last month or so that you like The Numbers site. But they are often behind by at least a few days when it comes to tallies.

Box Office Mojo is what most of the industry uses as its most up-to-date, for example it shows Strange World at $60.6M:


I love that The Numbers site because it allows you to compare/contrast various movies so easily. And breaks down individual countries box office so easily. It's fun!

Strange World had a budget claimed to be anywhere between $130 to $180 Million. If you split the difference and also say that it only had to make twice its budget to break even (being very conservative since the marketing was so weak), That would put Strange World's breakeven point at $300 Million.

At a roughly $60 Million take nearing the end of its theatrical run and relevance, it just cost Burbank about $225 Million. That's gonna leave a mark on the fiscal year. :oops:
 

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