sedati
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Okay, but they have to do it right- I want high-speed instantaneous 90 degree turns that will snap my poor "User" neck.
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EPCOT Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind attraction confirmed for Epcot
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Casper Gutman
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I’m including rides that are essentially completed and are only waiting on Disney’s preferred financial quarter to open. And since the original point is about Disney’s “new” rides, their inclusion is valid.
The point was about the number of screen-based rides, not subjective judgements of their quality. I think MMRR is pretty close to a masterpiece - it’s still screenbased. So yeah, the point stands - the overwhelming majority of the rides Disney has built recently and is building are screen-based.
yensidtlaw1969
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I wonder if we might be entering an era where we need terms that have a bit more nuance than "screenbased". Even though it makes extensive use of projection mapping and occassional use of video screens, that term doesn't quite seem appropriate for something like Runaway Railway. My personal feelings about MMRR happen to be that the attraction is far from a masterpiece, and the ways it uses projections and video are somewhat a factor in that assessment, but I wouldn't classify it as "screenbased".
Compared to something like Star Tours or Flight of Passage where the screen basically is the experience, Runaway Railway is much more physically realized along its ride path. Considering how many rides now to make use of projected elements without leaning on them as whole replacements for practical sets, maybe it's worth figuring out what sort of different classifications we can offer. Not insisting you do that, of course, just that it might be a good thing for our general consciousness to identify.
I'm still very curious by how many moments in Cosmic Rewind will consist of the coaster carting past wholly projected screen-ery. I'd love to think there's more to come than just careening from one projection dome to the next.
TheEPCOTHistorian
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Look inside Connections. I'd say it's 90% complete, honestly. No way this misses the Guardians deadline IMHO.
Most interesting to me are the multicolor LED's, which are pictured in the photo on blue mode.
Most interesting to me are the multicolor LED's, which are pictured in the photo on blue mode.
Cesar R M
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Can't wait for the next movie where our bad boy tells Mickey he is family as they beat Zephirot and Commander Shepard into submission.
Cesar R M
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In the defence of the original poster... Navi River is like 90% screens, only that animatronic (with a ton of PR about how its the most amazing animatronic ever..)
And I'd say that RISE is an excellent mix of 50% 50%. Animatronics, physical sets and screens.
Haymarket2008
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Ehhhhh, Na’vi could benefit with having more animatronics but that attraction is overflowing with physical sets. The screens that are utilized are for the animals and depth. A strong 90% not screens.
UNCgolf
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Yeah, this.
Na'vi is one of the best examples of how to effectively use screens on a dark ride, IMO. They add depth and movement to the background but they don't take the place of actual detailed physical sets.
yensidtlaw1969
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I mean, I think it's fair to say that at least several of the screens came in place of animatronics - the Viperwolves and Hexapedes come immediately to mind - but moments like the waterfall, centipede log, and the Na'vi riding Direhorses in the background are well-integrated.
The overhead moment with the frog-type creatures on the leaves seems to be a favorite moment for many as well. If there were a few more animatronics representing creatures of Pandora, and maybe a few more Na'vi, I doubt we'd hear so many complaints about the ride.
James Alucobond
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I think the Viperwolf and Hexapede screens are okay where they are ... They just need reiterative accompanying animatronics. Like, after I see the Viperwolves move through the background, I want to encounter one up close as a fully-realized animatronic later, as if it's decided it's safe to venture nearer the boats. They really just need three or so decently spaced encounters with fauna that you really want to focus on rather than just seeing them whip by in the background. Then it won't be so jarring at the end when you suddenly encounter the insanely complex shaman. It's that core incongruity that makes it feel incomplete.
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UNCgolf
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Oh sure, I wasn't arguing that. The ride could use more AAs.
My point was that the screens work as a supplement to the physical sets; it doesn't ever feel like you're just watching something happen on a screen. That's how I want to see screens (and projections) used in the future on rides instead of replacing physical sets. While NRJ should have a couple more AAs, I think if you added a significant number then it becomes a D or E ticket instead of a C ticket. Not that anyone would complain about that, but I don't think that's what they were trying to build.
I'm actually a pretty big fan of NRJ. I'd take it over almost any other ride built at WDW in the past 15 years -- I haven't been on Rise yet, but I'm sure it's better than NRJ. I also haven't been on MMRR or Ratatouille, but from videos I prefer NRJ (of course that could change after actually riding them). I definitely prefer NRJ to Smugglers Run, the Toy Story Land rides, and the New Fantasyland rides. I actually like it more than Flight of Passage too, simply because the physical sets are far more immersive for me than the screen on FoP. I still enjoy FoP, though.
UNCgolf
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I've actually wondered if people would like the ride more if that AA didn't exist specifically for this reason.
James Alucobond
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I honestly think so. It's the only ride I've ever ridden at Disney where I've gotten off and just felt odd about the budget distribution. Like, yes, some rides are clearly done more cheaply than others, but they feel much more even-handed in the application of what they had. Frozen Ever After, for instance, has really spartan environments, but all of the animatronics feel like they're of the same quality, and there's something eyecatching at the beginning (Olaf skating), middle (Elsa pushing the boat back), and end (Marshmallow belching out frost on you). Rock 'n' Rollercoaster has dopey cutouts, but it's cutouts throughout; I'm not suddenly assaulted by something high-budget at the end.
If they decided upfront that this was going to be the singular core animatronic, I'd have had a large roundabout the boats circumnavigate in the middle of the ride with the shaman in front of the tree of souls while animals overhead and elsewhere nearby react to the song. I'd want to get way more mileage out of it mid-attraction rather than having it be an awkward farewell that doesn't match anything else seen up to that point.
Maybe you. This ride needs Recognizers (the trains could fly between their legs), Tanks, the MCP, and of course... bit! Of course a Tron AA would have been nice too.
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Poseidon Quest
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What? I consider it to be the prime example of bad attraction design in this current era of Disney. I would even argue that it's lazy. Projecting stuff onto flat walls, using trackless ride vehicles for a linear ride path and having absolute atrocious pacing is coming close to a masterpiece? This isn't a personal attack, but I'm just flabbergasted because I cannot fathom where you're coming from.
yensidtlaw1969
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Well . . . it's early yet.
ToTBellHop
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I don’t know…I love MMRR except for the tornado…
Vegas Disney Fan
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I love Navi but it suffers from the same problem as Seven Dwarves… it’s too short. They are both very well done but they feel shortened, like the accountants cut a big chunk out of them and told the imagineers to make it work.