EPCOT Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind attraction confirmed for Epcot

[larryz]

Disney recently released AP hotel discounts and still offers shopping and dining AP discounts.

I have no idea what that means relative to AP previews.

I'll rephrase. Sounds like CM are being recruited. What does that suggest regarding any previews including CM and DVC?

So, they're offering 10% off prices they just raised 10%?

I'm guessing previews will be limited to those with real skin in the game... like you say, DVC, CM's, Golden Oaks and Club 33 1/3...

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Although Journey to the Center of the Earth isn't a rollercoaster, it does have a 20-30 second coaster like element to it, which is about the same length as the TRON coaster overall (j/k)

Don't TRON and Barnstormer have the same run time if you count Barnstormer's lift?

 

[WDWFREAK53]

When you look amount of bolts used to attach the ship body to the stand, it would seem that it is a permanent part of the display...not that they couldn't bolt other things to dress it, I feel like that stand is there to stay...
I know people were hoping it would be removed once the rest of the pieces were in place...

Not removing...concealing. This can't be the final "view" we see. (Especially now with the wiring in plain sight).

 

[rreading]

When you look amount of bolts used to attach the ship body to the stand, it would seem that it is a permanent part of the display...not that they couldn't bolt other things to dress it, I feel like that stand is there to stay...
I know people were hoping it would be removed once the rest of the pieces were in place...

Were it temporary, I would expect it to be vertical and look temporary. I don’t love it and would prefer they had used lighter materials so it could have been supported more easily but I guess it didn’t work out according to their plans.

Hopefully it looks cool when it’s done though.

 

[J4546]

That thing probably weighs many tons, it definitely needs a strong support, I'm just waiting to see how they dress and mask it

 

[lewisc]

So, they're offering 10% off prices they just raised 10%?

I'm guessing previews will be limited to those with real skin in the game... like you say, DVC, CM's, Golden Oaks and Club 33 1/3...

My question is WHEN people think previews will be offered. We know CM are being hired/transferred.

I get you don't think AP holders will be included.

 

[JohnD]

That thing probably weighs many tons, it definitely needs a strong support, I'm just waiting to see how they dress and mask it

They'll paint the current support stand "Can't See Me Blue".

 

[lazyboy97o]

That thing probably weighs many tons, it definitely needs a strong support, I'm just waiting to see how they dress and mask it

So do airplanes and a small city park by the highway in Orlando has a more elegant pedestal.

 

[celluloid]

So do airplanes and a small city park by the highway in Orlando has a more elegant pedestal.

Or the floating mountains of Pandora.

I honestly thought form the early concept art that this thing was going to appear that it landed on a reflection pool. Somewhat gracefully but in Guardians style.

I was a bit off I guess.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Or the floating mountains of Pandora.

I honestly thought form the early concept art that this thing was going to appear that it landed on a reflection pool. Somewhat gracefully but in Guardians style.

I was a bit off I guess.

That would have been phenomenal.

 

[mergatroid]

You've just proved again that your issue is people forming negative opinions before experiencing it, not people forming any opinion before experiencing it. You're complaining that people who think it will be "the best attraction ever" aren't heard from enough - so they're allowed to have their opinion, but anyone who thinks negatively of it we hear from too much? Hmm.

Keep in mind that this is the nature of empirical evidence - there are parts of this attraction that people have experienced. I've been to EPCOT and experienced the impact of the giant unthemed Gravity Building on the park's skyline, which I feel is negative rather than positive. I've experienced the Guardians of the Galaxy movies and don't particularly care for those characters or feel they are a good fit for EPCOT. I've ridden Disney's other "roller coasters in the dark" and do not feel that sort of attraction as Disney has historically built them is what EPCOT needs. I've heard how much this attraction costs and know that it's the single most expensive ride ever built at Walt Disney World, which sours me a little futher because that's a lot of money to spend on one ride that, to me, is already having a negative impact based on the things I just listed. We haven't seen many of the elements that are meant to outweigh these negative impacts, and maybe the scale will be balanced out when we do. Maybe all of my early opinions will be reversed on my first ride and I'll want my ashes scattered in this attraction when I'm gone. But until then I can't just magically decide that this will probably be the best ride ever when I've yet to see anything that would convince me I should feel that way, and seen several things that inspire me to feel the opposite.

This does not mean I've already fully decided that Cosmic Rewind will be awful and that there's no hope of saving it - and any rational person knows that. Obviously. It's so silly that this even needs to be said. Are we not adults?

If the negative opinions of others are weighing down your time of these forums, the ignore button is free to use and often very helpful in curating your experience. But people are allowed to have and share negative opinions of how it's going so far, and often those opinions have validity.

I posted

It's really more about forming an opinion before experiencing it. You get far less people insisting it's going to be the best attraction ever without experiencing it than you do those insisting it's going to be terrible. And those that do rarely make posts repeatedly, unlike a minority of those who are overly negative.

And I have never said they can't have an opinion of an attraction until it's 100% done, just that their opinion isn't necessarily correct at that point be it negative or positive.

Where do I complain that "people who think it will be the best attraction ever aren't heard from enough"? Where? I just comment that there's more people making negative pre judgments than positive, that's true but nowhere am I saying I want to hear more positive things from those who've made positive pre judgments.

I've also used the word 'minority' when describing those who are 'overly negative'. That's because many have a reason to perhaps not like certain things about upcoming attractions. So I'm actively pointing out that I'm talking about "a minority of those who are overly negative" and not criticising all people who are negative. There's a number of people who in my opinion just post negative stuff all the time, I'm aware that I could ignore them just like anyone can ignore me, but I do appreciate you pointing that out. I also know they're allowed to have a negative opinion and actually said that very thing a few posts back of mine, again thanks for reminding me though.

I'm not sure why you think that I believe you should say "But until then I can't just magically decide that this will probably be the best ride ever when I've yet to see anything that would convince me I should feel that way, and seen several things that inspire me to feel the opposite." Have I ever posted anything saying that I expect that, I don't believe I have? And if you said that I'd probably engage and ask you why, in the hope that you had inside info to make that call as otherwise how would you know?

To clarify

People can have whatever opinions that they want
People can say negative things or positive things
I know I can ignore folk and that they can ignore me
Not everyone saying negative stuff has an agenda or is always negative
Not everyone saying positive stuff has an agenda or is always positive
I've never said you have to say you think something is the best ride ever
I've never even thought as you as a negative poster

 

[Incomudro]

So do airplanes and a small city park by the highway in Orlando has a more elegant pedestal.

They weigh far less than this size for sze.
Airplanes are meant to fly, they're made as light as possible.
This is a prop of a craft that doesn't fly, and would be unflyable even if it was light and had power.

 

[lazyboy97o]

They weigh far less than this size for sze.
Airplanes are meant to fly, they're made as light as possible.
This is a prop of a craft that doesn't fly, and would be unflyable even if it was light and had power.

Airplanes still end up weighing a few thousand pounds, especially an old fighter made of steel. This is a showset prop. It’s almost certainly something like fiberglass on a steel frame. This thing isn’t pushing the limits of engineering. A more slender pedestal was absolutely possible.

 

[jinx8402]

I think shape is also a factor in why airplane pedestals can look more streamlined and integrated. Due to the fins being so large when in that position, there really isn't anything else you can do. They couldn't use the fin as the anchor point either because the weight distribution of the cabin area. They could have had the fins all pointing back, but honestly I think that would lose the wow factor of the ship.

It also can't be compared to the floating rocks in Pandora because those are anchored at multiple points to the ground. Makes it substantially easier to hide and mask.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I think shape is also a factor in why airplane pedestals can look more streamlined and integrated. Due to the fins being so large when in that position, there really isn't anything else you can do. They couldn't use the fin as the anchor point either because the weight distribution of the cabin area. They could have had the fins all pointing back, but honestly I think that would lose the wow factor of the ship.

It also can't be compared to the floating rocks in Pandora because those are anchored at multiple points to the ground. Makes it substantially easier to hide and mask.

Cantilevers can be built. Foundations can be deeper.

 

[TikibirdLand]

They weigh far less than this size for sze.
Airplanes are meant to fly, they're made as light as possible.
This is a prop of a craft that doesn't fly, and would be unflyable even if it was light and had power.

Given enough power, ANYTHING can fly . I wonder where Musk's roadster is? Oh, look, it's on it's way to Mars!

 

[larryz]

This is a prop of a craft that doesn't fly, and would be unflyable even if it was light and had power.

 

[larryz]

There are better ways to do it than a grid of girders...

 

[TheEPCOTHistorian]

Isn't the ship also supposed to have a smoke machine for an exhaust effect?

 

[OG Runner]

Isn't the ship also supposed to have a smoke machine for an exhaust effect?

No they have installed a jet engine in the back. Similar to the Dragon at Diagon Alley every once in a while
flames will blast out of the back. Be ready to duck and cover or you might get singed.